2012/8/13 Tony Pursell <a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>: > Florian, > > On 13 August 2012 02:21, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <and...@pitonyak.org>wrote: > >> >> I was not aware that any list existed that did not use "reply mangling" so >> that the reply (by default) went back to the list.... Will be interested to >> see what occurs. >> >> >> >> >> On 08/12/2012 12:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed >>> (so-called "Reply to mangling" has been disabled). >>> >>> So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other >>> words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were >>> automatically sent directly to the list. >>> >>> In the past, this lead to two major problems: >>> >>> 1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list, >>> where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case >>> where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of >>> worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people hit >>> "reply" and thought it would reply to the sender only. >>> >>> 2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that working >>> with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because of >>> reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also led to >>> the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who needed to >>> spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden with others. >>> While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just one way to find >>> out... >>> >>> Therefore, I have applied a change: >>> >>> Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. You >>> either need to use the "reply to all" feature of your e-mail program, or - >>> preferably - the "reply to list"/"reply to group" feature, which will >>> direct replies directly to the list. >>> >>> This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default >>> setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the wheel >>> here. Those seeking for details should have a look at >>> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html >>> >>> I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the >>> outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, so I >>> am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your >>> understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are unusable >>> with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists are >>> unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those two, >>> even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are mutually >>> exclusive to each other. >>> >>> In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and >>> again, I beg for your understanding. >>> >>> Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the >>> community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of you is >>> to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or not. >>> Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will immediately >>> switch back to the old behaviour. >>> >>> Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm >>> somehow sitting between two chairs here. >>> >>> Florian >>> >>> >> I will find this a real pain. I use Gmail, which seems to only have Reply > and Reply to All. There is no Reply to List. So to send this back to the > list I have to Reply to All, remove Andrew from the To box, and Cut and > Paste the list address from the CC box. If I do not do this, Andrew will > get my message twice. > > Please put it back the way it was, > > Tony > I use Gmail too and it seems like you don't have to cut and paste anything. Seems to be OK to leave the address in ”CC: and to leave ””To:” empty. That's what I'm doing right now, hope it works…
So I click ”Reply to all” (which requires a click more than just replying), then I delete everything in ”To:”, write my message and hit ”Send”. Not very quick, though. I want the old behaviour back. There is no way to idiot proof anyway. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
