Look - Google has done some pretty good things for the open web (webm/vp8, pushing webrtc along, summer of code, &c.) and some terrible things (advocating drm in html5? unforgivably gross). Should we favor and focus on free & open solutions? Of course. Diaspora, mumble, webrtc are all great ways to communicate (yes, the latter isn't fully baked. best time to experiment!) IMHO we should have a presence on any network we can and funnel traffic to the more open venues. I don't have much use for arguments of ideological purity.
I'm teaching a digital media production course this quarter. It's traditionally taught as a "learn2adobeSuite" class. Was tempted to make it a LEARN ALL THE FREE THINGS class but decided against it; doing it as technology agnostic with an emphasis on html5. My students know I'd prefer they use floss, but I'll take an assignment made with whatever tool they decide to use (probably the first time, as students, they've even had a choice) as long as they document their process. So far so good. cheers, a On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jay Sulzberger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Victor Shamanovsky <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Humble reminder, let's all connect in meaningful ways. If you are >> invisible online you are invisible online >> >> Link to our google community: >> https://plus.google.com/**communities/**104488559036561591819<https://plus.google.com/communities/104488559036561591819> >> >> If you are using gmail, twitter, facebook, laptop, and a smart phone with >> a data provider, that you didn't build yourself, there is no excuse that >> can stand up to a notion that the best of the breed tools and resources >> help all of us move forward. >> >> Cheers, and thanks >> > > Had Richard Stallman agreed with you would be no Project GNU. > Had Larry Lessig agreed with you there would be no Creative > Commons Project. > > And had the people who built the Net agreed with you, there would > be no Internet. > > That Project GNU continues, that Creative Commons continues, > shows that it is more than just Richard Stallman, and more than > just Larry Lessig, who are willing to work for freedom. That you > and I can, if we wish, communicate using rsync and ssh, that is, > I can issue the command > > rsync -avzb --rsh=ssh /home/me/secret.gpg [email protected]:/home/you > > and get the file secret.gpg tranferred, without being picked up > by the police, shows that not everybody who uses the Net agrees > with you. > > ad your requirement to refine sand to the silicon on the > motherboard I own before you allow me to, however inexcusably, > disagree with you: > > Who owns the computers, and who owns the software, that your > data is stored on and served from, makes a difference: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/**07/18/technology/companies/**18amazon.html<http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html> > > Even for those who did not create from primordial soup all the > things made by human beings. > > I think that, had the founders of Students for Free Culture > agreed with you, there would be no Free Culture Foundation. Even > if am in part mistaken about this hypothetical, the Free Culture > Foundation should not agree to use such a system as > GooglePlusPlus. GooglePlusPlus is run by Google, it is not run > by the Free Culture Foundation. Thus GooglePlusPlus serves > Google's purposes, and not Free Culture's. > > We are not beggars. We need not agree to just take whatever the > Englobulators offer. We can build what we need: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**FreedomBox<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomBox> > [page was last modified on 7 April 2013 at 19:00] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Cryptocat<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocat> > [page was last modified on 22 March 2013 at 11:03] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Tahoe-LAFS<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoe-LAFS> > [page was last modified on 20 February 2013 at 20:50] > > just as we have built SSH and GnuPG and Apache: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Secure_Shell<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell> > [page was last modified on 17 April 2013 at 22:51] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**GnuPG<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuPG> > [page was last modified on 22 April 2013 at 16:58] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Apache_HTTP_Server<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server> > [page was last modified on 16 April 2013 at 11:02] > > and various Lisps, too: > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/**jaffer/SCM.html<http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/SCM.html> > > http://www.gnu.org/software/**guile/<http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/> > > http://www.sbcl.org/ > > even ML, Haskell, and the Linux kernel: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**ML_%28programming_language%29<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_%28programming_language%29> > [page was last modified on 21 April 2013 at 17:46] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Haskell_%28programming_**language%29<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_%28programming_language%29> > [page was last modified on 19 April 2013 at 00:12] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Linux_kernel<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel> > [page was last modified on 20 April 2013 at 11:57] > > No, we need not surrender before engagement. > > oo--JS. > ______________________________**_________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss<http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > FAQ: > http://wiki.freeculture.org/**Fc-discuss<http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss> >
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