Josh, I did send you an invite to check out Snowdrift.coop!

Our intent is to be 100% Free/Libre in every way, technically and
culturally, have no ambiguity about the community, and solve the problem of
finding "a way to have a world in which we use free cultural works
throughout our day to day life"

We believe that the starting point indeed needs to be 100% Free/Libre and
not rely on things like Google Hangout; but we also believe that the
solution is to make the Free/Libre things also superior products so there's
no temptation. And our system is meant to solve that.

Join us and help us realize our vision and then feel optimistic instead of
defeated!

(in case I'm not being clear, I agree completely with the criticism of
Viktor's G+ thing)

Cheers,
Aaron
Snowdrift.coop

--
Aaron Wolf
wolftune.com


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Joshua Gay <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Join our free culture google community
>
> It is just so damn depressing to read emails on this list in which
> people are encouraging the use of proprietary works instead of free
> cultural works.
>
> I wish that there was a group of people I could turn to that wanted to
> promote a sense of solidarity in supporting free culture. I wish I could
> look toward a group of people that said to themselves, "hey, sure, I
> know maybe we all haven't found a way to have a world in which we use
> free cultural works throughout our day to day life, but, I think it
> would be cool to keep our focus in this group to that of encouraging and
> promoting free cultural works wherever and whenever we can, even if that
> is sometimes less convenient than simply using and promoting proprietary
> works."
>
> Using free software to communicate instead of proprietary software isn't
> even some radical or extremely difficult thing to do. Sure, it's not
> always as easy and simple as using proprietary system to do it, and
> maybe some people will have to work together to help others be able to
> participate.
>
> So, where else do I go? If I can't go to the primary discussion mailing
> list for the free culture foundation to find people dedicated and
> committed to the promotion of free cultural works, then where?
>
> I don't even feel frustrated or angry anymore ... simply defeated.
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