Hi Doug,
I forked a repo on introduction to GitHub by Rachael Ainsworth
(https://github.com/rainsworth/4IR-GitHub-Workshop), my colleagues from
Software Sustainability Institute, just this weekend. She uses it as
part of workshops on reproducibility in research. My fork (rather
project-agnostic) is at:https://github.com/anenadic/GitHub-Workshop
<https://github.com/anenadic/GitHub-Workshop>. You may find them useful.
We were running Hacktoberfest at the weekend in Manchester
(https://www.meetup.com/PyData-Manchester/events/254560871/) together
with PyDataMCR, PyladiesNW, RLadiesMcr and HER+Data and were struggling
to get various groups to get going with working with GitHub/git. In the
end, we got all the novice groups together and Rachael gave a quick
1-hour workshop on using GitHub (not git) based on her materials. I
thought it worked really well and suggested people to follow it up with
a SWC workshop on git more more in-depth knowledge and understanding of git.
Cheers,
Aleks
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On 18/10/2019 11:56, Doug Joubert wrote:
Hello,
This is been a fascinating discussion so thanks to everyone that has
provided feedback. Our introduction to R series has been adapted from
the DC Ecology lessons. I mention GitHub during the project management
sections. We set up a repository on GitHub and I talk about managing
this repository both from the perspective of Rstudio and GitHub
desktop. Personally I’ve never seen the value of teaching new
programmers how to use GIT at the command line when there are so many
other options. Our students have found this section really useful, so
am going to develop this into a standalone class on reproducibility in
research. If anyone has some suggestions I would love to hear them.
Cheers
Doug Joubert
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 17:34 Peter Humburg <peter.humb...@mq.edu.au
<mailto:peter.humb...@mq.edu.au>> wrote:
We have started teaching a modified version of the R DC curriculum
that teaches Git instead of SQL (because that seems to be more
relevant to the majority of our audience). We rely entirely on the
RStudio git GUI for this. Although that is a pretty limited
interface but not having to learn an additional tool (or command
line usage) helps to make git more accessible. Another change we
have made is that we don't teach git as a separate lesson. There
is a brief introduction to git but the majority of it is taught by
demonstrating its use throughout the R part of the course. Based
on feedback from the learners this has helped to reduce confusion
and made git more accessible. Admittedly, the git part of the
course covers only the very basics but the hope is that it will
get a larger proportion of the learners to actually use git. I
don't have any hard data on this but based on what they say
immediately after the course, the proportion of participants who
are considering using git certainly seems to be higher than after
an SWC course that uses the standard git module.
Cheers,
Peter
*Dr Peter Humburg*
Statistician
/Faculty of Human Sciences/
AHH Level 5
Macquarie University NSW 2109
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*From:* Brooks Kieffer, Elizabeth Jamene <jamen...@ku.edu
<mailto:jamen...@ku.edu>>
*Sent:* Thursday, 17 October 2019 3:21 AM
*To:* discuss <discuss@lists.carpentries.org
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*Subject:* [discuss] Insight on Data Carpentry and Git?
Hi everyone,
I’m reading the Baker /et al/ article about the initial instance
of Library Carpentry (Baker, J., /et al/, (2016). Library
Carpentry: Software skills training for library professionals.
/LIBER Quarterly, 26/(3), 141–162.
https://doi.org/10.18352/lq.10176
<https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/b-LfCk815RCr8x1jU2B1k9?domain=doi.org>).
In the Next Steps section, the authors mention learners’ struggles
with Git during this workshop, and note that other curricula
exclude Git because of its difficulty. Specifically: “…this is a
finding of comparable training programmes and is a reason for Data
Carpentry not teaching Git and GitHub” (p. 158).
There isn’t a citation for the information about why Data
Carpentry doesn’t teach Git and GitHub, and the Teal /et al/
article describing Data Carpentry doesn’t mention Git (Teal, T.
K., /et al/, (2015). Data Carpentry: Workshops to Increase Data
Literacy for Researchers. /International Journal of Digital
Curation/, /10/, 135–143. https://doi.org/10.2218/ijdc.v10i1.351
<https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/tGVBClx1OYUA0Qp8f9VHEt?domain=doi.org>).
I would appreciate any insight and/or links to discussions
specifically about this decision to exclude Git from Data
Carpentry. I’m not interested in debating the decision. Rather,
I’m working on a paper on teaching Git; documentation of this
discussion would be helpful supporting information for the paper’s
opening contention that Git is difficult to both teach and learn
(something that’s not news to this group!).
Thanks very much in advance,
Jamene
Jamene Brooks-Kieffer
Data Services Librarian
University of Kansas Libraries
785-864-5238
jamen...@ku.edu <mailto:jamen...@ku.edu>
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