Quickly:

There are two distinct drivers being discussed here.

"mpt", which is used (IIRC) for LSI 1068E and similar-era things, is
closed-source.

"mpt_sas", which is used for LSI 2008 and similar-era things, is not
closed-source.

The latter appears to be what you are interacting with; the former is
what Garrett's response is about.

- Rich

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Jorgen Lundman via illumos-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yeah it looks like i spoke too soon...I just realized you said the SSDs are 
>> actually failing not just going offline and appearing to fail.
>
> Yeah, these servers run great, until a disk dies :)
>
>   9:08am  up 1098 day(s), 20:49,  1 user,  load average: 0.29, 0.28, 0.25
>   9:08am  up 1017 day(s), 15:07,  0 users,  load average: 0.57, 0.52, 0.46
>
>
>
>>
>> In extreme cases, a bad drive can cause POST to fail.
>>
>
> Yes, had something like that 2-3 years ago. But the last three just took
> out the system, technically console worked but any command causing IO would
> hang, including reboot. Powercycle was the way out, POST takes a little
> longer looking for the dead device, but eventually carries on.
>
>
>> NB, also in those cases, no permanent damage was done and a zpool scrub 
>> showed
>> no data loss :-)
>
> No, not lost any data, although, since a dying disk forces a reboot there
> is some customer outage. If it happens to be a mail server, dovecot can
> leave lock files around (of course, letting NFSv4 client 'do its thing'
> generally ends up correct, even if it takes 10-15 mins to sort itself out)
>
>
>>  But do have sata expanders in the system ?  Those are known to be toxic.
>
> I believe the LSI sas2008 is sas all the way, but the SSDs are straight
> SATA Intel 360 (IIRC).
>
> If mpt_sas was never released, are there controllers with software that was
> released? These are generic Supermicro ~20 to ~40 disk servers, and the LSi
> card is added separately (for JBOD). So it wouldn't be impossible to change
> controller. But if it's more of a general problem with SATA then it
> wouldn't matter.
>
> Even thought I have failed to replicate the failure case, I will do the
> same cut-wire-test with IllumOS, to at least make sure it is no worse.
> Annoyingly, I had 'cleverly' written OmniOS 'dd' image to SSD (for speed
> and I have lots to play with), only to find it fails to boot
> (root-assembly:media's mount_media can't find the volume when its SSD) so I
> will retry again today with a plain USB stick.
>
> Lund
>
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