Has IxDA or any other organization ever taken a survey of SW company knowledge of/integration with/dependence on Interaction design, (something like rising up the knowledge pyramid)?
Maybe I have been (very) lucky working for companies where almost all of them had some idea of the value of upfront user empathetic design, which aided, (to a greater or lesser degree), the entire SW development life cycle. Of course there are places which put lip service only on design, and there are methodologies that "forgot" upfront design has value, (anybody really read the book on scrum?). It is my belief that a critical mass of SW companies seriously consider IxDA when thinking about SW projects, (maybe they act on this, maybe they don't, maybe they pay lip service). Is this others experiences? In terms of professional integration, where are we on the "J" curve? I believe we're in the 2nd stage where acceleration is continuing, but velocity may have peaked. On 10/31/07, Alan Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dmitry, > > Yes, it is indeed pathetic that I need to "invent a completely new > ontology...to justify [my] point." > > Welcome to the terminology hell that is software. You'll notice that I > spend an inordinate amount of words in all of my books and articles > clearing out a semantic space where I can make my points free of > mistaken meanings. You'll also notice, including from this very thread, > just how ineffective it is. > > Thanx, > Alan > > __________ > cooper | Product Design for a Digital World > Alan Cooper > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.cooper.com > All information in this message is proprietary & confidential. > "There is no country with a military so powerful, an economy so strong, > and a culture so great that its politicians cannot pull it down." - > Donald Gilbert Carpenter > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dmitry Nekrasovski > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:49 AM > To: Rich Rogan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design? > > Amen Rich. > > While reading this article, I've tried very had to understand why Alan > has gone to the lengths of inventing a completely new ontology of > software development to justify his point. > > The only reason I can think of is that, to a person who is not > familiar with basic principles of software engineering (e.g. a > business stakeholder), the article might sound like a magical fix for > all the complexity and uncertainty that typically plagues software > development projects. Just "segregate engineers who like to design > software from engineers who like to build software". Preferably build > a wall between them. Sounds easy, doesn't it? ;) > > As a counterpoint to notions like this, I highly recommend Fred > Brooks's classic No Silver Bullet paper: > > http://tinyurl.com/yv8kqj > > Dmitry > > On 10/30/07, Rich Rogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In Coopers article he seems to "Jump the Shark", (makes assumptions > that > > have little relevance to most companies I've worked for), when he > writes: > > > > "Of course you can see how both of these problems, (engineers don't > know > > how/can't follow design), would stem from the same root: if a > programmer has > > never learned to follow a written design, then he would structure his > daily > > work to do without. He would attempt to do the necessary design > himself, > > concurrent with the construction effort. *And that is exactly what > > programmers at all levels and in all sub-disciplines of computer > programming > > do*: *they design code at the same time as they build it.* If we could > > untangle these two parts of the programming job, we could begin to > defeat > > the apocalyptic horsemen." > > > > He then goes on to identify two types of engineers which I have always > heard > > called "Engineers", (Cooper calls them "builders") and "Architects", > (Cooper > > calls them "designers"). > > > > Every place I've worked at/heard of, that was a > professional/respectable > > software co., not in ultra start up mode, did upfront design, besides > > "Architectural Software" design. It seems he is implying that > "Interaction > > Design" as a profession is some new concept, which few software > > engineers/projects have heard of or incorporate. > > > > This seems to be very old news, and not really relevant in todays > market, or > > do I just work for ultra bleeding edge organizations when it comes to > > process? I like Alan's premise of promoting our discipline, but he > seems to > > be looking from the past, (very far past in SW terms - 10 yrs back or > so). > > > > Did anyone else get this from the article? > > \ > > ________________________________________________________________ > > *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* > > February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA > > Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > > To post to this list ....... 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