I'll apologize for my part. I think part of the issue of these discussions is that "practice" is so unique. As an enterprise software guy for 10 years now, I got this in spades. But on this list, we try to engage in discussions that can be generalized outside of the individual organizational experience and used across working environments. So it is hard to get the full picture and thus reactions like these.
So again, I'm sorry for my part in any "Ogre" implications, but I do have to say you do remind me of Shrek a little bit. Of course, Dirk is no Donkey in any sense of the metaphor. ;) I think I get what you are saying about finding passionate and engaged people who want to hit the ground running. That part I wouldn't ever want to get in the way of. I think what hit a nerve w/ me was maybe your unfortunate choice of words -- "cold water". I think "hit the road running" is more of what you meant and in the context of this discussion has a lot more merit and value. I think Juniors should always take this point of view and anyone would be well rewarded to have access to someone like you and Dirk to work with at such an early point in their careers. To my point, I think find it amazing how few organizations though want the "hit the ground running" approach, but would rather the "cold deep water" approach. My colleague is doing a research paper for DMI on the topic of young hires in the general design setting and it is just amazing the results she is finding (go to the DMI conference to learn more). What I have seen at Moto EMb Design I haven't seen anywhere else. it is the most nurturing junior designer environment I have seen. People really get mentored as they enter the studio. They are also given LOTS of opportunity to hit the ground running. But they do so with LOTS of support. For designers, we have an amazingly low attrition rate. I wish I could find a good way to emmulate this and achieve my other goals of building the IxD group here on Long Island (my biggest obstacle is big hair, strip malls, and 50 miles between the office and NYC). Again Andrei, sorry for my part in what turned a bit nasty. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=26170 ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help