Gilberto: I know I should keep my mouth shut here but your comments are not fair and (at least this late at night) rather infuriating.
If you cannot see the arrogance and ignorance of a comments like "I could write a whole book about why usability test and focus groups are bad for you and your customers but I wont" or "the reason why UCD have so much weight today is because there are a lot of academics who don't know how to actually design (i.e. making a > decision) so they need to take it into a process" then there is no point in wasting time in trying to convince you. I will let Jared defend himself if he chooses to but IMO for you to suggest that he is unprofessional or that his contributions are without value is ridiculous. If these types of comments are your idea of a 'constructive discussion with a flow and exchange of ideas' you are operating in a reality that is far from the one I experience. There are basic standards of critical thinking that professionals should adhere to. The comments that Jared responded to are far below that level. Don't bother replying to me because I am out of this conversation. Best, Charlie ============================ Charles B. Kreitzberg, Ph.D. CEO, Cognetics Corporation ============================ -----Original Message----- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Gilberto Medrano Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:13 PM To: Jared Spool Cc: Thomas Petersen; disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services @Jared: you mentioned "value" and "arrogance", and yet I don't find your last 2 entries as adding much value or being less arrogant. How much Thomas charges for his work shouldn't be a criteria to weigh the value of his ideas, nor is it your business or mine. What was your contribution in those two entries? Somebody has a different opinion than yours, and that is fine, deal with it like a professional, share your thoughts if you have the time and are willing, and avoid pointless sarcasm. If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything at all and save us the time. It's been a fair, constructive discussion so far. Let's allow the flow and exchange of ideas instead of blocking it with our own egos. Gilberto On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Jared Spool <jsp...@uie.com> wrote: > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Thomas Petersen wrote: > > I could write a whole book about why usability test and focus groups >> are bad for you and your customers but I wont. >> > > Wow. Someone has been doubling up on their arrogance pills today, haven't > they? > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ....... disc...@ixda.org > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
