----- Original Message -----
> On Wed, 8 May 2013, Mark McCullough wrote:
> > Linux is popular, but it isn't the only OS.  Even there, I didn't
> > used
> > to have it available on the builds I had to work with. [2]
> 
> The feeling I get where I am is that HP-UX and AIX are very much
> legacy
> Operating Systems, a few large installations at big companies running
> big
> applications but these are slowing being reduced and few new
> deployments.
> 
> Solaris is maybe 10 years behind that. A lot of software gets ported
> to it (and even supported) and plenty of places still use it as
> the standard "unix" (using it for everything rather than *just* using
> it
> for legacy apps) but market share is slowly dropping.
> 
> Of course anything running HP-UX or AIX is likely to take at least 10
> years and $100 million to replace so they have pretty long half
> lives, but
> it would be hard to argue they have much of a future.
> 
> Or am I way too Valley / Internet / Open Source biased ?
> 

Its strange, because it seemed to be that HP-UX and AIX were way ahead of 
Solaris.  But now seem to be disappearing.

When I worked for an engineering company, we were primarily HP-UX....Solaris 
was the second, and that was for is x86 version.  Then I worked for an 
enterprise software company, where they were primarily AIX...even though 70% of 
their Unix sales were for Solaris.  But, when the company had started it used 
to be IBM mainframe...there were still some big customers running the mainframe 
version, I think a few even continued for a few years past 2000.  Now I work in 
a Solaris shop.

Though after the Oracle acquisition....we did invite HP and IBM in to pitch us 
switching to them.  But, for now we're staying with Oracle/Solaris.  When I was 
switching jobs....HP was starting to introduce its Itanium based servers, and 
AIX was starting to get Linux-fied.... So I was curious what they were up to 
now.  IBM seemed to be making the strongest push to get back into our 
datacenter (we had gotten rid of the IBM mainframe a couple years before.)  We 
decided to stay with Solaris at that time.  Though we're moving away from using 
Solaris for everything, to using it only for Oracle.  In the push of what to 
switch to, it looks like RedHat wants us to kick them out so that Ubuntu can 
come in.  But, FreeBSD has made a come back and we have a couple production 
systems running it now.  I'm leaning to FreeBSD to replace the bulk of the 
Solaris systems I'm responsible for. OTOH, we're also looking at SmartOS and 
OmniOS.

But, we have lots of Solaris systems that have been running for close to 10 
years (some scary ones that have uptimes in the 5+ years range....from when we 
were having PDU problems), which is going to make replacing them a real 
challenge.  Millions of dollars to upgrade to hardware that can't run the old 
OS/software, where the old hardware can't run the new OS/software.  Which of 
course brings up talk whether we should stay with Oracle....(though there are 
outside factors sometimes in why we stay)

I don't remember if nc is present on new RedHat installs, but used to be it 
wasn't (used to be there was an admin that created master images and he striped 
it pretty bare, but his successor was a do full installs of whatever is 
current....so last year we had churn through all the RedHat servers to make 
them the same.

The lack of consistency has bitten the applications people more than 
once....sometimes its been really strange.

We had one report that their Java application had stopped working, eventually 
tracked it down to around the time it was evacuated from an ESX node.  Move 
their VM to another ESX node and their application started working again.  

Its likely that the next time we re-post for an opening, it won't be for a 
Senior Solaris Systems Administrator....



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> "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
> 
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