telnet: I'm used to it, and it works.

I use nc when I need it, but otherwise, what does it matter? (Assuming you 
actually have both to choose from.)

- Leon, Crazy Old Sysadmin

On May 7, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Simon Lyall <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 May 2013, Derek Balling wrote:
>> On May 7, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Tracy Reed <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The fact that telnet is insecure in some (now rare) use cases (any time you 
>>> enter a password)
>>> is just one more reason to let it go.
>> 
>> If I type my password in an NC connection is it somehow magically protected?
>> 
>> For its most common daily use-case today ("get me to a specific port on the 
>> other host") telnet is no more or less secure than nc is.
> 
> The general Linux/Unix environment does evolve over time and commands get 
> replaced or become completely obsolete[1]. Netcat is over 17 years old[2] and 
> has been in Debian since 1998[3] so you can hardly say it is brand new.
> 
> Sure our fingers get used to typing "top" or "telnet" or "egrep" but learning 
> a new command every year or two would hopefully come within the area of "try 
> not to be that crazy old Sysadmin looking after the obsolete system who will 
> get laid off when it is finally replaced because he doesn't know anything 
> newer than Solaris 7"[4]
> 
> [1] http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix2.1/unixnut/appb_01.htm
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netcat
> [3] 
> http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/n/netcat/netcat_1.10-38_changelog
> [4] We all know one.
> 
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