I've never been convinced that, because you carry water in your pipes to my
house, you get to have a say in whether it goes to my faucet or to my
sprinkler.

--Matt


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's hoping they don't, to be honest.
>
> No matter how many people "want" it otherwise, the ISPs built those
> networks, invested billions of dollars in them, and nobody else other than
> their shareholders should have a say how traffic is managed on them.
>
> Now, the counterargument usually goes "but there's no competition", to
> which I say "WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?", and point squarely at the government
> who mandates monopoly behavior, and who thinks "4G wireless" or "satellite
> service" is a legitimate "competition" for TWC 50x5 or FIOS.
>
> Break the monopolies, invest in getting some competition in there (to undo
> the damage of govt-granted monopolies for decades) and then let's see where
> we stand.
>
> D
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Will Dennis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Related:
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/07/21/332678802/one-million-net-neutrality-comments-filed-but-will-they-matter
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Beyenhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:05 AM
> *To:* Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [lopsa-discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and
> ISP monopolies
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:09 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> If the content is distributed by a content distribution network, and LOTS
> of services use those networks, then the SSL cert could be "*.akamai.com"
> (or whatever) and if the ISP's want to throttle it, their only choice is to
> throttle *all* of the content indiscriminantly.
>
>
> But then the ISPs could differentiate between CDNs, couldn't they? What's
> to prevent the market from being manipulated so that a non-neutral Net can
> just discriminate against (or for) large swaths of content providers at
> once?
>
> -Brad
>
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