On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Matt Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've never been convinced that, because you carry water in your pipes to > my house, you get to have a say in whether it goes to my faucet or to my > sprinkler. > > +1 > --Matt > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here's hoping they don't, to be honest. >> >> No matter how many people "want" it otherwise, the ISPs built those >> networks, invested billions of dollars in them, and nobody else other than >> their shareholders should have a say how traffic is managed on them. >> >> Now, the counterargument usually goes "but there's no competition", to >> which I say "WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?", and point squarely at the government >> who mandates monopoly behavior, and who thinks "4G wireless" or "satellite >> service" is a legitimate "competition" for TWC 50x5 or FIOS. >> >> Break the monopolies, invest in getting some competition in there (to >> undo the damage of govt-granted monopolies for decades) and then let's see >> where we stand. >> >> D >> >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Will Dennis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Related: >> http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/07/21/332678802/one-million-net-neutrality-comments-filed-but-will-they-matter >> >> *From:* [email protected] [ >> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *Brad Beyenhof >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:05 AM >> *To:* Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [lopsa-discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality >> and ISP monopolies >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:09 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> If the content is distributed by a content distribution network, and LOTS >> of services use those networks, then the SSL cert could be "*.akamai.com" >> (or whatever) and if the ISP's want to throttle it, their only choice is to >> throttle *all* of the content indiscriminantly. >> >> >> But then the ISPs could differentiate between CDNs, couldn't they? What's >> to prevent the market from being manipulated so that a non-neutral Net can >> just discriminate against (or for) large swaths of content providers at >> once? >> >> -Brad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > >
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