At my company there are those little golf "Quiet Please" signs that people have stuck to their cubicles all over the place, because it's too noisy.
Adam > On Jul 2, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Michael Ryder <[email protected]> wrote: > > You want to talk to someone? Nobody is stopping people from gathering in > conference rooms or offices or hallways. > > Open floor plans? We have one in my building, and you see their people > constantly having to get up and walk away to take phone calls. > > The next step of the open floor plan idea that is being considered at my > office is hoteling, where you don't even have your own desk -- you have a > locker, and each day you arrive to work begins with the adventure of picking > up your desk supplies, dragging them over to your desk and setting up, and > then setting down each night. That's just great. As if the soul-sucking > inhumanity of slaving away as a keyboard jockey (no matter whether you are > programming, or SysAdmining or "DevOpsing" (whatever THAT means)) wasn't > enough, now you can't even soften the hard edges of your work environment > with a little customization. Nope, you'll have to carry those family photos > back and forth every day. > > Think this is great for "managing by walking around" or "monitoring" of > employees? What if you can't find them because you have no idea where they > are sitting? > > And since when is everything better when done as a team? Some people do > their best work when solo - let's meet in a conference room, collaborate, and > then let me retreat to my cave where I can really get some work done. Oh > yes, collaboration... watching someone else hunting-and-pecking their way > through an SOP draft in real-time on a projector. Nothing else can drive me > to want to gnaw off my own arm as quickly as watching other people type. > > Things are getting ridiculous. > > Mike > >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Florian Heigl <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> We worked with around 15 people in a large office for around 9 years. >> >> > On 01.07.2015, at 10:26, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Stephen Potter wrote: >> > >> >> There are several thought factors at play with open floor plans. They may >> >> or may not be fully valid, but they are why some people like them. >> >> >> >> Open floor plans increase interpersonal interaction. The ability for >> >> anyone to be able to provide input into anything is "good". >> >> Collaboration, crowd sourcing, open source development, DevOps all >> >> benefit when more people are involved. If you throw everyone into a room >> >> where they can see and hear everything, you get the best ideas from >> >> everyone and quality or productivity must improve. >> >> ++ for that. >> It was the best enviromnet ops-wise I have ever seen. >> Many “findings” presented in recent talks about team org, monitoring, root >> cause analysis are just amusing since this was stuff we happily practiced in >> our “Corp IT”, “Non-Devops” team for years. >> >> Easily < 1 Minute Reaction times during multiple outages >> quick assignment and reorganization >> avoiding duplicate work / unclear responsibilities >> one-step handovers / escalations can be incredibly quick as an Ops team in >> an open floor env >> Also, peer review was just a absolutely normal practice and incredibly easy. >> >> Conf calls were not needed because we were in the same place. >> >> > until you have 90% of people wearing headphones to cut out/drown out the >> > chatter. >> >> Actually we only had 10% of headphone people. >> They happened to be the same that later damaged the team beyond repair. >> I’ll go as far as saying that they were not “fit” to interact with other >> people. >> >> Yes, I also had headphones at times, to concentrate, to not hurt my ears in >> the datacenter etc. >> But besides that - >> no I don’t think at all that it’s all logical to prefer an environment where >> you don’t hear the people you work with. >> >> The one exception was the SAN admins who needed the interruption free work >> env to concentrate during their rather dangerous tasks. >> They had an adjacent room and could switch desks. >> >> But in general: >> Put up dashboards and tickers and hipchat all you want - human interaction >> with mouths and ears is far better. >> Even if you might get hit by a paper flyer at times. >> >> Florian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/
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