I've been supportive of the NetEng site from the start, mostly because
there are definitely "Network Engineering Experts" whose experience may
have zero overlap with Server Fault.  DevOps, though, seems like a definite
shot-across-the-bow of ServerFault, mostly because at some level, every
sysadmin is also a developer (of sorts) and has to deal with the same kinds
of issues.

I don't want to belittle the term DevOps -- there are definitely job roles
that are more solidly defined as development-and-operations, but the term
itself doesn't have a solid definition.  If you consider it to be a very
broad field of expertise, then it's a vampire site, draining both
serverfault and stackoverflow.  If you consider it a very narrow field of
expertise, then I suppose making a different site makes sense.

Pete

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Craig Constantine <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I just stumbled over the prosal in Area 51, and thought to icymi-post it
> to the list.
>
> My two cents (disclaimer, I’m a moderator, since area 51 and beta, of the
> network engineering stack)…
>
> Yes, it’s probably an overlap to some extent. SE policy has is “don’t
> cleave topical material out of one stack, to make another stack.” We worked
> really hard to establish NetEng, and we’ve had to “that’s off-topic” a lot
> of things that really could be handled on NetEng, to tow the SE line.
>
> Meanwhile, the huge stacks like SF are just too busy to use at all. So
> these tight little topics never get any air or life.
>
> -- Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Peter Grace <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Disclaimer: I work at stack but I am not speaking as an employee of
> stack.  I do have moderator on Server Fault, however I don't participate
> much.
>
> Forgive me for asking perhaps a loaded question, but isn't devops already
> in-scope for stackoverflow.com and serverfault.com?
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Craig Constantine <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> icymi: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/97295/devops
>
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