AAG has a sliding income scale, no reason something like that, or a
"hamburger index" multiplier, can't be used to fix that up.

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index

P.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bart van den Eijnden <bart...@osgis.nl> wrote:
> Good food for thought Howard, can’t say I disagree with anything you say here.
>
> The only thing we need to consider is that for some countries 50 or 70 USD 
> can still be a lot of money.
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
>
> On 23 Jun 2014, at 16:12, Howard Butler <how...@hobu.co> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, Dimitris and Peter for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Comments inline.
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2014 4:31 am, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>> http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership
>>>> http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership/dues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both simpler, and better for the bottom line of OSGeo, if you want to
>>>> be a member, sign up as a member, collect your t-shirt, see you @
>>>> foss4g.
>>>>
>>> Yes Paul, "pay for membership" is simple, but I'd argue that the value of 
>>> OSGeo and OSGeo communities is the volunteer time we contribute, and "pay 
>>> membership" wouldn't capture that.
>>
>> This property is the nature of a professional organization, which in my 
>> opinion, OSGeo clearly is. There are a number of strong reasons why small 
>> annual fees for membership are very attractive. The first is there's no 
>> struggling with members who've dropped off, haven't voted, are no longer 
>> participating. Second, anyone who wants to associate themselves can simply 
>> do so by paying dues. Finally, a consistent, if small, operating revenue.
>>
>> The voting process has been an ad-hoc affair since the beginnings of the 
>> organization. Every year it the rules are tweaked. Every year members who've 
>> dropped off need to be nagged. Every year we end up just taking everyone 
>> who's nominated anyway. It's a lot of overhead and volunteer cost for very 
>> little gain.
>>
>> It is certain there are people who wish to be professionally associated with 
>> OSGeo who are unable to become members because they haven't generated enough 
>> public profile to be nominated. You can't nominate yourself. It's a chicken 
>> and egg problem that simply dissolves with paid-but-small membership dues.
>>
>> OSGeo's main revenue stream is the FOSS4G conference. It is an event run on 
>> the backs of local chapter volunteers. Please correct me otherwise, but I do 
>> not think any local chapter who has hosted FOSS4G has ever put in a proposal 
>> to host it again. This well may eventually run dry. Or, it may run dry for a 
>> year or two. 80-100k/year (~$50-70/year * 1500 persons) of membership dues 
>> is plenty to keep the lights on through droughts and still allow the 
>> organization to move forward.
>>
>> At the inception of the organization, a driving factor toward our current 
>> membership structure is because OSGeo is a volunteer organization, it 
>> shouldn't require members to pay money. I think this is misguided. Every 
>> other professional organization of which I'm a member requires membership 
>> dues. As an IRS classification, a professional organization has a clear path 
>> forward.
>>
>> I am a professional open source Geo/GIS software developer. I want to belong 
>> to a professional organization that represents me. I would be happy to pay 
>> some nominal membership dues that a) signify my membership, b) provide 
>> financial buffer for the organization to achieve its mission, and 3) clearly 
>> signal what the rules are to become a member.
>>
>> My $0.02.
>>
>> Howard
>>
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