Jody, your response is perfect. I do get upset too often (or actually, I take quite a lot, but eventually am set off). I apologize for this, I will try to be better. I am slowly improving. But I could be better.

To get myself back on track, I decided a few minutes ago (mentioned on the Board list) by doing some little things for OSGeo right now. And you'll be happy to hear that one of them is Incubation-related: give a push with the pycsw team for the next steps (code review etc), as I am their mentor.

Thanks again for being the voice of reason Jody. Let's all do as Jody says, and I am sure these tricky points will work themselves out.

-jeff



On 2014-09-15 4:57 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
Well I don't like you get upset Jeff, you are correct that "patches"
speak louder than emails.

If I could put a plug in for the incubation committee - we would really
love some more volunteers. We have a couple projects waiting to "get in"
and all we need is a "mentor" to be a friendly voice/email contact.

The stuff we do at OSGeo can be very intimidating (starting a steering
committee - gasp!) or require sensitivity (trade mark conflict). Having
a mentor to email or Skype can be of great assistance.
--
Jody Garnett

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Jeff McKenna
<jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>>
wrote:

    Why is there this sudden need to point out things like this?  This
    is the part that makes my heart drop.  (and the underlying meaning
    of the subject of this email) Instead of pointing out issues, maybe
    those making these noises can spend that time on the marketing
    committee, or tackling on the membership issue.

    I personally have no problem with LocationTech, in fact I agree they
    play a very important role for businesses.  I do have a problem
    however with pointing out problems with OSGeo and our baby, FOSS4G;
    instead of pointing out problems, I feel those same people could be
    diving into helping OSGeo grow and pick up the ball themselves.

    -jeff





    On 2014-09-15 2:56 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:

        Why is this not true? I think you are misinterpreting here Jeff.

        Membership in OSGeo is a single person. Yes this person can
        belong to a company or run their own company, but membership is
        still personal.

        Bart

        Sent from my iPhone

            On 15 sep. 2014, at 19:45, Jeff McKenna
            <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
            <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>__> wrote:

                On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
                the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in
                Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses



            Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo.  OSGeo
            members are made up of all walks of life, and many are
            running private businesses all around the world.  I have
            visited their organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G
            travels throughout the years.

            However I cannot change how you feel.

            This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made
            publicly, which I feel are made to divide our community.

            Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events
            (of all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no
            sole focus on one type of community.  And as the President
            of OSGeo, I am happy to represent all of the members, of any
            kind :)

            -jeff


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