I am going to grab a couple quotes from the other email thread: - Maria: *Our projects are much more than pieces of code. Behind our software there are communities* - Ben passing on: "Jon Kuperman @jkup Stop treating open source like a product you purchased and start treating it like a team you belong to." https://twitter.com/jkup/status/909887066103676928 - Ben: *We offer something that proprietary GIS never can: the opportunity to join a community of peers.*
I strongly agree with these statements; I think we have to present a list of open source projects (rather than software) or we would not be doing good outreach. Educating non-community members about this aspect - that open source is a team, rather than a technology should be taken on from the very first page. Steve, if the discussion list can come to an agreement here, I would like to ask for phrasing to use when restoring the home page to "choose-a-project". It will be challenging to word in a way that communicates well. (I also note the above quotes would be excellent for a "why open source" page) -- Jody Garnett On 20 September 2017 at 06:02, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with > for the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open > source projects"? > > This is not an easy answer, as the earlier discussion on this list did not > know how to recognize projects doing a rewrite (example OL2 --> OL3, or > project teams expanding and developing additional software components like > QGIS Server. > > Here is the email from the marketing list: > > The choose-a-project wizard is now working, we had to cut down some of the >> tags last week and change how the pages were done to make it happen. >> This touches on a conversation with Steve Feldman from the code sprint. >> As part of the focus exercise the home page >> <http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/> was changed to says "Choose your >> software" which then links to "choose-a-project". >> It does bring up two interesting cases: >> 1) http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/qgis/ >> QGIS - has several software projects now under one banner: QGIS >> Desktop, QGIS Server, more? >> This is kind of messing with the system (and resulting in oddities like >> QGIS being listed as a cloud processing service, I assume QGIS server could >> run in the cloud and qgis desktop offers processing). >> 2) http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/gvsig/ >> Same thing, there are now multiple gvSig software projects: gvSIG >> Desktop, gvNIX, gvSIG Mobile, i3Geo > > > > Recommendation for the beta website: >> - Making the QGIS Association page under Partners, linking to individual >> pages for QGIS and QGIS Server project pages. >> - Makin the gvSIG Association link to the individual software project >> pages for gvSIG Desktop, gvNIX, gvSIG Mobile, i3Geo. >> > > And Steven Feldman's reply: > > My 1st thoughts on ‘projects’ and ‘software' are to look at definitions: >> *Project*: >> >> >> *"In contemporary business >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_sector> and science >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science>, a project is an individual or >> collaborative enterprise, possibly involving research or design, that is >> carefully planned <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan>, usually by a >> project team, to achieve a particular aim.[1] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-1>A project may also be a >> set of interrelated tasks to be executed over a fixed period and within >> certain cost and other limitations.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-2>It may be a temporary >> (rather than permanent) social systems >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_system> as work systems >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_systems> that is constituted by teams >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team> within or across organizations to >> accomplish particular tasks >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_(project_management)> under time >> constraints.[3] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-3> A >> project may be a part of a wider programme management >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_management>” **https://en.* >> wikipedia.org/wiki/Project <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project> >> *Software*: >> *"Computer software, or simply software, is a part of a computer system >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_system> that consists of data >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_(computing)> or computer instructions, >> in contrast to the physical hardware >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware> from which the system is >> built. In computer science >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science> and software engineering >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering>, computer software is >> all information <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information> processed >> by computer systems >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_system>, programs >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program> and data. Computer >> software includes computer programs >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program>, libraries >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_(computing)> and related >> non-executable data <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_(computing)>, such >> as online documentation >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_documentation> or digital media >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_media>.” >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software> * > > >> My interpretation: >> Each different application e.g. QGIS Desktop, QGIS server is ‘software’ >> (or we could alternatively use ‘application’ or 'program') >> The QGIS Project is the umbrella organisation/collaboration/social >> construct/enterprise that encompasses and coordinates the individual >> software/applications/programs >> I think the important thing for us as a marketing group is to consider >> what these terms mean to potential users rather than how we use them >> internally (for our community ‘project' can be interchangeable >> with ‘software’). > > > I am personally having a hard time thinking in terms of software since I > like the fact that open source project encompasses both the technology and > the people. > -- > Jody Garnett >
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