Jody We can get that into a concise text
Steven > On 22 Sep 2017, at 18:16, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am going to grab a couple quotes from the other email thread: > Maria: Our projects are much more than pieces of code. Behind our software > there are communities > Ben passing on: "Jon Kuperman @jkup Stop treating open source like a product > you purchased and start treating it like a team you belong to." > https://twitter.com/jkup/status/909887066103676928 > Ben: We offer something that proprietary GIS never can: the opportunity to > join a community of peers. > I strongly agree with these statements; I think we have to present a list of > open source projects (rather than software) or we would not be doing good > outreach. > > Educating non-community members about this aspect - that open source is a > team, rather than a technology should be taken on from the very first page. > > Steve, if the discussion list can come to an agreement here, I would like to > ask for phrasing to use when restoring the home page to "choose-a-project". > It will be challenging to word in a way that communicates well. > > (I also note the above quotes would be excellent for a "why open source" page) > > -- > Jody Garnett > >> On 20 September 2017 at 06:02, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with for >> the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open >> source projects"? >> >> This is not an easy answer, as the earlier discussion on this list did not >> know how to recognize projects doing a rewrite (example OL2 --> OL3, or >> project teams expanding and developing additional software components like >> QGIS Server. >> >> Here is the email from the marketing list: >> >>> The choose-a-project wizard is now working, we had to cut down some of the >>> tags last week and change how the pages were done to make it happen. >>> This touches on a conversation with Steve Feldman from the code sprint. As >>> part of the focus exercise the home page was changed to says "Choose your >>> software" which then links to "choose-a-project". >>> It does bring up two interesting cases: >>> 1) http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/qgis/ >>> QGIS - has several software projects now under one banner: QGIS Desktop, >>> QGIS Server, more? >>> This is kind of messing with the system (and resulting in oddities like >>> QGIS being listed as a cloud processing service, I assume QGIS server could >>> run in the cloud and qgis desktop offers processing). >>> 2) http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/gvsig/ >>> Same thing, there are now multiple gvSig software projects: gvSIG Desktop, >>> gvNIX, gvSIG Mobile, i3Geo >>> >>> Recommendation for the beta website: >>> - Making the QGIS Association page under Partners, linking to individual >>> pages for QGIS and QGIS Server project pages. >>> - Makin the gvSIG Association link to the individual software project pages >>> for gvSIG Desktop, gvNIX, gvSIG Mobile, i3Geo. >> >> And Steven Feldman's reply: >> >>> My 1st thoughts on ‘projects’ and ‘software' are to look at definitions: >>> Project: >>> "In contemporary business and science, a project is an individual or >>> collaborative enterprise, possibly involving research or design, that is >>> carefully planned, usually by a project team, to achieve a particular >>> aim.[1] >>> A project may also be a set of interrelated tasks to be executed over a >>> fixed period and within certain cost and other limitations.[2] >>> It may be a temporary (rather than permanent) social systems as work >>> systems that is constituted by teams within or across organizations to >>> accomplish particular tasks under time constraints.[3] A project may be a >>> part of a wider programme management” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project >>> Software: >>> "Computer software, or simply software, is a part of a computer system that >>> consists of data or computer instructions, in contrast to the physical >>> hardware from which the system is built. In computer science and software >>> engineering, computer software is all information processed by computer >>> systems, programs and data. Computer software includes computer programs, >>> libraries and related non-executable data, such as online documentation or >>> digital media.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software >>> >>> My interpretation: >>> Each different application e.g. QGIS Desktop, QGIS server is ‘software’ (or >>> we could alternatively use ‘application’ or 'program') >>> The QGIS Project is the umbrella organisation/collaboration/social >>> construct/enterprise that encompasses and coordinates the individual >>> software/applications/programs >>> I think the important thing for us as a marketing group is to consider what >>> these terms mean to potential users rather than how we use them internally >>> (for our community ‘project' can be interchangeable with ‘software’). >> >> I am personally having a hard time thinking in terms of software since I >> like the fact that open source project encompasses both the technology and >> the people. >> -- >> Jody Garnett > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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