We have roughy 4000 - 4500 sqft right now. 500 is between 20 and 25% of our rent. Our rent is what, $750/month, plus heat + possibly power, so it'd be $200 - $400 / month, minimum.
Also, tell them they have to clean the toilets. Ron On 2012-10-03 17:28, Mark Campbell wrote: > I think it was around $1/sq. ft.? > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > > > I don't know - Jay knows how many sq. ft. we're paying for currently. > > > > On 3 October 2012 17:18, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > How much would skullspace save by giving up 575 square feet? > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >> You guys are making this harder than it needs to be... no, we won't > > >> try to make them SkSp members... why would Ramp Up want to join us? > > >> > > >> Why would we look into building some kind of corridor that will > > >> severely decrease our hallway space and just create more work for us? > > >> > > >> Why would we look into administering the space and providing power and > > >> finished rooms and then charge some kind of adjusted rent, which would > > >> create a huge headache for us (and I would not be willing to manage a > > >> space that we sublet, less I become a kind of defacto landlord myself > > >> >_>)? > > >> > > >> The easiest solution... and the one that requires almost no investment > > >> from us and instant reward in the form of reduced rent... is to wall > > >> off the entry from the lounge, or from the first room in the set of > > >> two, and give the space to AW and adjust the amount of sq. ft. we pay > > >> for. > > >> > > >> To note: the two rooms make up 575 sq. ft. (taken from CAD drawing). > > >> > > >> I think if we go looking to charge an adjusted rent for these guys > > >> it'll just be a waste of our time and resources and put more > > >> management on our end. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 3 October 2012 16:49, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > This is a version of the electrical plan with the dimensions needed. > > >> > It's > > >> > approximately 500 square feet (31*16). > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> How big is the room? It may be more cost effective for them just to > > >> >> buy > > >> >> SkSp memberships. > > >> >> > > >> >> (i.e. if the room's 10'x10', 10 of them could get SkSp memberships > > for > > >> >> the > > >> >> same price, and simply bring in other people as guests) > > >> >> > > >> >> Alternately, if they're already affiliated with AW, perhaps they > > could > > >> >> just use the boardroom there? I don't think AW has any particular > > use > > >> >> for > > >> >> another "office" type room. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Mike mentioned $4/square foot being the least expensive option for > > >> >>> renting space in the exchange (not including the maintenance, > > heating, > > >> >>> electricity). A figure around that (not sure what the square footage > > >> >>> of the > > >> >>> room(s) are), if not a moderately less, would be appropriate. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> > > wrote: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Negligible... I mean how much could we charge them in reality? We'd > > >> >>>> have to provide electrical to the room, and finish it... that's not > > >> >>>> thinking about renovations for access control (if we deem it > > >> >>>> necessary). It'd be much easier and save us more money in the long > > >> >>>> run > > >> >>>> IMO to just wall it off from our side either one or two rooms, and > > >> >>>> then let AW build a door into it. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> On 3 October 2012 16:34, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> >>>> > I think it's a worthwhile venture, yes. At least with this > > >> >>>> > renovation, > > >> >>>> > there's a return on investment. > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> > > >> >>>> > wrote: > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> Creating a hallway would make our lounge even smaller and I'm > > sure > > >> >>>> >> we'd have to make it extra wide to follow any kind of code - it > > >> >>>> >> would > > >> >>>> >> take a significant portion out of our space - and do you really > > >> >>>> >> want > > >> >>>> >> to start even *more* renovations for SkSp?? > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> On 3 October 2012 16:27, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>> >> wrote: > > >> >>>> >> > That actually sounds like a great idea. It's a perfect > > >> >>>> >> > opportunity > > >> >>>> >> > to > > >> >>>> >> > renovate the rooms in a nice way. Creating a hallway between > > the > > >> >>>> >> > main > > >> >>>> >> > hallway and the backroom shouldn't pose any problem at that > > >> >>>> >> > point. > > >> >>>> >> > > > >> >>>> >> > > > >> >>>> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Justin Lacko < > > jus...@takaji.ca> > > >> >>>> >> > wrote: > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> Mark, > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> The savings would be the same... we'd pay less for our lease > > >> >>>> >> >> because > > >> >>>> >> >> of less floor space. We'd also not need to worry about > > >> >>>> >> >> providing > > >> >>>> >> >> them > > >> >>>> >> >> with power. > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> If you wanna go the other way, we'd have to > > administrate/manage > > >> >>>> >> >> the > > >> >>>> >> >> rented space, provide power/finished walls/a certain degree > > of > > >> >>>> >> >> tenant > > >> >>>> >> >> requirements, determine a price for power, as well as debate > > >> >>>> >> >> access > > >> >>>> >> >> control since they'd be going through SkSp to get to the > > rooms. > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> On 3 October 2012 16:19, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>> >> >> wrote: > > >> >>>> >> >> > Justin, from your mention of repartitioning the space so > > that > > >> >>>> >> >> > AW > > >> >>>> >> >> > has > > >> >>>> >> >> > more, I > > >> >>>> >> >> > do not agree with this -- I was originally thinking that we > > >> >>>> >> >> > could > > >> >>>> >> >> > make a > > >> >>>> >> >> > significant profit from leasing space to RU -- that is, we > > >> >>>> >> >> > charge > > >> >>>> >> >> > them > > >> >>>> >> >> > more > > >> >>>> >> >> > $$ per square foot than we pay on our current lease. > > >> >>>> >> >> > > > >> >>>> >> >> > > > >> >>>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net > > > > > >> >>>> >> >> > wrote: > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> Depending on what they need, they can just become sksp > > >> >>>> >> >> >> members > > >> >>>> >> >> >> then > > >> >>>> >> >> >> use > > >> >>>> >> >> >> the space as they wish :) > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> Ron > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> On 2012-10-03 14:41, Justin Lacko wrote: > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Something that came up at yesterday's meeting that I > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > believe > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > may > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > warrant further discussion: > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Does anybody like the idea of SkullSpace renting out > > some > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > their > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > space to Ramp Up Manitoba? > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > This is a small group that recently merged with > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > AssentWorks, > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > they > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > are looking for space. 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