It’s $100/month for both those back rooms?
If we determine that we have enough space in other rooms, we could live without
that. One of the big complaints I’ve heard was that even though our space is
cheap, we have so much of it.
We could free up space in the lounge by building (or getting) better shelving.
Most of the wall space against the back wall could hold stuff, and we could fit
one of the more popular game machines.
When is the dirty work room going to be usable? (I see temporary storage.) What
does RampUp need in a space, anyway? (Maybe we could store a couple things
around them, if they just need table space and presenting area.)
From: Jay Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 6:13 PM
To: Justin Lacko
Cc: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Ramp Up Manitoba and SkullSpace?
It's $2.045/sqft/year, so we would save $97.99/month on rent (not including
gst).
And yes, we're no longer feeling very paranoid about hiding the rent figures :P
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
More around $2. But let's see if Jay can provide us with the numbers.
On 3 October 2012 17:41, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote:
> We have roughy 4000 - 4500 sqft right now. 500 is between 20 and 25% of
> our rent. Our rent is what, $750/month, plus heat + possibly power, so
> it'd be $200 - $400 / month, minimum.
>
> Also, tell them they have to clean the toilets.
>
> Ron
>
> On 2012-10-03 17:28, Mark Campbell wrote:
>> I think it was around $1/sq. ft.?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know - Jay knows how many sq. ft. we're paying for currently.
>> >
>> > On 3 October 2012 17:18, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > How much would skullspace save by giving up 575 square feet?
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> You guys are making this harder than it needs to be... no, we won't
>> > >> try to make them SkSp members... why would Ramp Up want to join us?
>> > >>
>> > >> Why would we look into building some kind of corridor that will
>> > >> severely decrease our hallway space and just create more work for us?
>> > >>
>> > >> Why would we look into administering the space and providing power and
>> > >> finished rooms and then charge some kind of adjusted rent, which would
>> > >> create a huge headache for us (and I would not be willing to manage a
>> > >> space that we sublet, less I become a kind of defacto landlord myself
>> > >> >_>)?
>> > >>
>> > >> The easiest solution... and the one that requires almost no investment
>> > >> from us and instant reward in the form of reduced rent... is to wall
>> > >> off the entry from the lounge, or from the first room in the set of
>> > >> two, and give the space to AW and adjust the amount of sq. ft. we pay
>> > >> for.
>> > >>
>> > >> To note: the two rooms make up 575 sq. ft. (taken from CAD drawing).
>> > >>
>> > >> I think if we go looking to charge an adjusted rent for these guys
>> > >> it'll just be a waste of our time and resources and put more
>> > >> management on our end.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 3 October 2012 16:49, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > This is a version of the electrical plan with the dimensions needed.
>> > >> > It's
>> > >> > approximately 500 square feet (31*16).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> How big is the room? It may be more cost effective for them just
to
>> > >> >> buy
>> > >> >> SkSp memberships.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> (i.e. if the room's 10'x10', 10 of them could get SkSp memberships
>> > for
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> same price, and simply bring in other people as guests)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Alternately, if they're already affiliated with AW, perhaps they
>> > could
>> > >> >> just use the boardroom there? I don't think AW has any particular
>> > use
>> > >> >> for
>> > >> >> another "office" type room.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Mike mentioned $4/square foot being the least expensive option for
>> > >> >>> renting space in the exchange (not including the maintenance,
>> > heating,
>> > >> >>> electricity). A figure around that (not sure what the square
footage
>> > >> >>> of the
>> > >> >>> room(s) are), if not a moderately less, would be appropriate.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Negligible... I mean how much could we charge them in reality?
We'd
>> > >> >>>> have to provide electrical to the room, and finish it... that's
not
>> > >> >>>> thinking about renovations for access control (if we deem it
>> > >> >>>> necessary). It'd be much easier and save us more money in the
long
>> > >> >>>> run
>> > >> >>>> IMO to just wall it off from our side either one or two rooms,
and
>> > >> >>>> then let AW build a door into it.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> On 3 October 2012 16:34, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>> > I think it's a worthwhile venture, yes. At least with this
>> > >> >>>> > renovation,
>> > >> >>>> > there's a return on investment.
>> > >> >>>> >
>> > >> >>>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca>
>> > >> >>>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> Creating a hallway would make our lounge even smaller and I'm
>> > sure
>> > >> >>>> >> we'd have to make it extra wide to follow any kind of code -
it
>> > >> >>>> >> would
>> > >> >>>> >> take a significant portion out of our space - and do you
really
>> > >> >>>> >> want
>> > >> >>>> >> to start even *more* renovations for SkSp??
>> > >> >>>> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> On 3 October 2012 16:27, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >> > That actually sounds like a great idea. It's a perfect
>> > >> >>>> >> > opportunity
>> > >> >>>> >> > to
>> > >> >>>> >> > renovate the rooms in a nice way. Creating a hallway between
>> > the
>> > >> >>>> >> > main
>> > >> >>>> >> > hallway and the backroom shouldn't pose any problem at that
>> > >> >>>> >> > point.
>> > >> >>>> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Justin Lacko <
>> > jus...@takaji.ca>
>> > >> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> Mark,
>> > >> >>>> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> The savings would be the same... we'd pay less for our
lease
>> > >> >>>> >> >> because
>> > >> >>>> >> >> of less floor space. We'd also not need to worry about
>> > >> >>>> >> >> providing
>> > >> >>>> >> >> them
>> > >> >>>> >> >> with power.
>> > >> >>>> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> If you wanna go the other way, we'd have to
>> > administrate/manage
>> > >> >>>> >> >> the
>> > >> >>>> >> >> rented space, provide power/finished walls/a certain degree
>> > of
>> > >> >>>> >> >> tenant
>> > >> >>>> >> >> requirements, determine a price for power, as well as
debate
>> > >> >>>> >> >> access
>> > >> >>>> >> >> control since they'd be going through SkSp to get to the
>> > rooms.
>> > >> >>>> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> On 3 October 2012 16:19, Mark Campbell
<nitrod...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > Justin, from your mention of repartitioning the space so
>> > that
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > AW
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > has
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > more, I
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > do not agree with this -- I was originally thinking that
we
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > could
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > make a
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > significant profit from leasing space to RU -- that is,
we
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > charge
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > them
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > more
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > $$ per square foot than we pay on our current lease.
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ron
<r...@skullsecurity.net
>> > >
>> > >> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Depending on what they need, they can just become sksp
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> members
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> then
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> use
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> the space as they wish :)
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Ron
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> On 2012-10-03 14:41, Justin Lacko wrote:
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Something that came up at yesterday's meeting that I
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > believe
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > may
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > warrant further discussion:
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Does anybody like the idea of SkullSpace renting out
>> > some
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > their
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > space to Ramp Up Manitoba?
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > This is a small group that recently merged with
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > AssentWorks,
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > they
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > are looking for space. We could rent the two back
rooms
>> > to
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > them
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > help decrease our operating cost (which is slated to
go
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > up,
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > btw).
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > We
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> > have a lot of space - it's just an idea.
>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >
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