Free, as in money? We've never mandated any cost to use SkullSpace's
facilities. As long as a member is present, it's free. Period.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ric Lim <[email protected]> wrote:

> Somewhat related to this. Is our policy for classroom use still free
> for a group meeting with member(s) who are part of Skullspace?
>
> On 5/7/14, R Rodd <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sounds great, Theo - I'm in!
> >
> > "More learning?  Yes please!"
> >  On May 7, 2014 2:15 PM, "Theo Baschak" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I have been prepping an "afternoon IPv6 workshop" since BSides
> basically,
> >> for a hackathon or perhaps even its own event. Oriented to network guys,
> >> server dudes, and perhaps even programmers, who want to be more aware of
> >> and get familiar (yes, hands on) with IPv6. Some of the topics:
> >> Addressing/Subnetting, new concepts (SLAAC, ULA, privacy addressing),
> >> v4/v6
> >> rough equivalencies where they exist and the differences from v4, NO
> NEED
> >> FOR NAT (but you still can), what IPv6 looks/works like for home users,
> >> to
> >> name a few.
> >>
> >> There has been some interest expressed by others in both putting this
> on,
> >> and also in attending such a talk/workshop.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Theo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'd be interested in doing a design 101 course.. and I imagine that
> >> > with a little advertising lots of people would also attend.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >> That course was really exciting to me for the reason you mentioned,
> it
> >> ties
> >> >> the fundamental hardware concepts all the way to the software. The
> >> >> only
> >> >> thing we need to make sure of is that the test answers don't get out
> >> online.
> >> >> They use this in universities, so having homework answers online is a
> >> >> problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> On May 3, 2014 1:37 PM, "R Rodd" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I could teach that course for you, Rylaan, or co-teach as I know we
> >> have
> >> >>> several members skilled in the material covered by it and likely
> more
> >> than a
> >> >>> few interested in teaching it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The video you linked mentioned it being a 12 week structure - I'm
> >> >>> game
> >> for
> >> >>> doing it over the summer but when would be best for yourself and
> >> >>> other
> >> >>> potential participants?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From the description in the video it is exactly the kind of course
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> should have been in my Comp. Eng. program in 2nd or 3rd year to "tie
> >> it all
> >> >>> together" .. fortunately for me I was doing similar projects in high
> >> school
> >> >>> and through the IEEE student group on campus.  Those projects gave
> >> context
> >> >>> to the abstract theories covered in class.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Richard
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On May 3, 2014 12:14 PM, "Rylaan Gimby" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I have a Graphic Design 101 course that I've been planning for
> >> >>>> years.
> >> >>>> Maybe it's time to put it on.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I also just received the teaching materials for this course,
> >> >>>> http://www.nand2tetris.org/ I don't know if I have the technical
> >> abilities
> >> >>>> to put it on though, since I would be learning myself.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Adrian Stoness
> >> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> id be down for that rhinoceros corse been yrs since i last looked
> >> >>>>> ath
> >> >>>>> that program
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> on another note justing i got a photo going up at this
> >> >>>>>
> http://www.labiennale.org/en/architecture/news/25-01.html?back=true
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> We may not be fully sustainable on our own yet, but I think that
> >> with
> >> >>>>>> each passing month we are getting closer and closer to that goal.
> >> In the
> >> >>>>>> time since I've left I've seen many new names be added to the
> list
> >> of
> >> >>>>>> members. I think there would be cause for concern if that wasn't
> >> happening,
> >> >>>>>> but it is.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> As Mark said, SkSp will always be about people donating their
> time
> >> (and
> >> >>>>>> their money) to the continuation of the space. But this is a
> >> >>>>>> proven
> >> business
> >> >>>>>> model for orgs such as ours and I think we should continue to
> >> embrace it.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I think I mentioned it in the past that in my experience of
> >> >>>>>> sitting
> >> on
> >> >>>>>> a different board, that organization met at a semi-private
> school.
> >> Each time
> >> >>>>>> we had a meeting, we made a resolution to donate $40 or something
> >> to the
> >> >>>>>> school, in exchange for letting us use their facilities. That
> >> >>>>>> board
> >> had
> >> >>>>>> money in the bank, so I wouldn't expect it from every org that
> >> >>>>>> uses
> >> our
> >> >>>>>> space, but I think it's the right attitude towards using our
> >> >>>>>> space.
> >> A
> >> >>>>>> gentle, non-direct request for donations in exchange for our
> >> facilities
> >> >>>>>> wouldn't hurt anybody - and nobody would be obliged to donate if
> >> they
> >> >>>>>> couldn't/didn't want to.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> As much as there's shared worries about the financial future of
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> space, it seems like we are on the right track, and now is the
> >> >>>>>> time
> >> to
> >> >>>>>> re-focus our sustainability strategies on growing our membership
> >> base
> >> >>>>>> through value-added content, like workshops and circuit-bending
> >> nights and
> >> >>>>>> everything else. In the future, it would be greatly satisfying to
> >> see a
> >> >>>>>> calendar with an event/workshop almost every night - everything
> >> >>>>>> from
> >> >>>>>> hacker-themed cooking classes to PGP how-tos to CTFs etc etc -
> >> >>>>>> that
> >> will be
> >> >>>>>> the draw for people to join and donate their time.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If I'm around in August, feel free to put me down for a
> >> multi-evening
> >> >>>>>> course teaching Rhinoceros 3D modeling and VRay rendering skills!
> >> I'll help
> >> >>>>>> out with SkSp however I can. And of course Friday night movie
> >> nights :)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> -Justin
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 3 May 2014 01:33, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees were paid
> to
> >> SkSp
> >> >>>>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>> a thank-you for using the space.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I see it more than just thank-you but as respectful rent decided
> >> >>>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>>> upfront -- if she's making money teaching to mostly non-members
> >> then
> >> >>>>>>> Skullspace deserves a cut for its contribution.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> It's different if is someone is charging money for a
> members-only
> >> >>>>>>> workshop (then Skullspace needs no rent as Skullspace is getting
> >> value by a
> >> >>>>>>> member specific or member discounted service being delivered) or
> >> if the room
> >> >>>>>>> is used by something like a usergroup (where nobody is getting
> >> paid).
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> For usergroups with hacker worthy subject matter, we might not
> >> want to
> >> >>>>>>> go as far as asking rent, but to make a requirement that they
> >> circulate a
> >> >>>>>>> collection donation cup/hat/pot to their attendees each time
> they
> >> use the
> >> >>>>>>> room.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Even our internal events with non-members showing up should
> >> include a
> >> >>>>>>> good cup passing beg moment when we've got the crowd in our
> >> >>>>>>> palms.
> >> >>>>>>>
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