You need to be careful about printing long objects on the 3D printer, it just encourages people like Jim and Mak.
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> wrote: > For my class, I'll be the one collecting the money. Can we 3D print a > large donation encouragement stick? > > > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Ron Bowes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Rylaan - we talked about doing that in the past (free/cheap for members, >> not for non-members), and I'm 100% in favour. It just requires a little >> more effort on the part of the organizer to figure out who's who(m) and to >> collect money. Since our default stance is 'lazy', nobody's tried it :) >> >> >> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I wanted to open it up all classes to the general public. Members get in >>> free (or a drastically reduced rate depending on the class), and >>> non-members pay. It shows off a membership benefit to non members, and the >>> fee can go towards and teaching materials / teachers (if we had to bring in >>> a non member teacher for something specific or for certification) that need >>> to be paid for, and the rest of the money to be donated to skullspace. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Also, if the group is charging attendees a fee, I would more strongly >>>> suggest a donation be made to SkSp. :) >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2014 8:35 PM, "Ron Bowes" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like Alex said, if a member is present, it's free. If nobody is a sksp >>>>> member and they want to use the space, it's still free, provided it fits >>>>> with our goals (ie, no cross burning) but they need a member to babysit >>>>> them. It's usually easy to find a volunteer. >>>>> >>>>> The more non-members who show up, the more we encourage a group to >>>>> donate to us, or have an option entrance fee. But we don't enforce it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Free, as in money? We've never mandated any cost to use SkullSpace's >>>>>> facilities. As long as a member is present, it's free. Period. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ric Lim <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Somewhat related to this. Is our policy for classroom use still free >>>>>>> for a group meeting with member(s) who are part of Skullspace? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/7/14, R Rodd <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > Sounds great, Theo - I'm in! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > "More learning? Yes please!" >>>>>>> > On May 7, 2014 2:15 PM, "Theo Baschak" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> I have been prepping an "afternoon IPv6 workshop" since BSides >>>>>>> basically, >>>>>>> >> for a hackathon or perhaps even its own event. Oriented to >>>>>>> network guys, >>>>>>> >> server dudes, and perhaps even programmers, who want to be more >>>>>>> aware of >>>>>>> >> and get familiar (yes, hands on) with IPv6. Some of the topics: >>>>>>> >> Addressing/Subnetting, new concepts (SLAAC, ULA, privacy >>>>>>> addressing), >>>>>>> >> v4/v6 >>>>>>> >> rough equivalencies where they exist and the differences from v4, >>>>>>> NO NEED >>>>>>> >> FOR NAT (but you still can), what IPv6 looks/works like for home >>>>>>> users, >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> name a few. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> There has been some interest expressed by others in both putting >>>>>>> this on, >>>>>>> >> and also in attending such a talk/workshop. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> Theo >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> > I'd be interested in doing a design 101 course.. and I imagine >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> > with a little advertising lots of people would also attend. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> That course was really exciting to me for the reason you >>>>>>> mentioned, it >>>>>>> >> ties >>>>>>> >> >> the fundamental hardware concepts all the way to the software. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> >> >> only >>>>>>> >> >> thing we need to make sure of is that the test answers don't >>>>>>> get out >>>>>>> >> online. >>>>>>> >> >> They use this in universities, so having homework answers >>>>>>> online is a >>>>>>> >> >> problem. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> On May 3, 2014 1:37 PM, "R Rodd" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> I could teach that course for you, Rylaan, or co-teach as I >>>>>>> know we >>>>>>> >> have >>>>>>> >> >>> several members skilled in the material covered by it and >>>>>>> likely more >>>>>>> >> than a >>>>>>> >> >>> few interested in teaching it. >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> The video you linked mentioned it being a 12 week structure - >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> >> >>> game >>>>>>> >> for >>>>>>> >> >>> doing it over the summer but when would be best for yourself >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> >> >>> other >>>>>>> >> >>> potential participants? >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> From the description in the video it is exactly the kind of >>>>>>> course >>>>>>> >> >>> that >>>>>>> >> >>> should have been in my Comp. Eng. program in 2nd or 3rd year >>>>>>> to "tie >>>>>>> >> it all >>>>>>> >> >>> together" .. fortunately for me I was doing similar projects >>>>>>> in high >>>>>>> >> school >>>>>>> >> >>> and through the IEEE student group on campus. Those projects >>>>>>> gave >>>>>>> >> context >>>>>>> >> >>> to the abstract theories covered in class. >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> - Richard >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> On May 3, 2014 12:14 PM, "Rylaan Gimby" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> I have a Graphic Design 101 course that I've been planning >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >> >>>> years. >>>>>>> >> >>>> Maybe it's time to put it on. >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> I also just received the teaching materials for this course, >>>>>>> >> >>>> http://www.nand2tetris.org/ I don't know if I have the >>>>>>> technical >>>>>>> >> abilities >>>>>>> >> >>>> to put it on though, since I would be learning myself. >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Adrian Stoness >>>>>>> >> >>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> id be down for that rhinoceros corse been yrs since i last >>>>>>> looked >>>>>>> >> >>>>> ath >>>>>>> >> >>>>> that program >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> on another note justing i got a photo going up at this >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.labiennale.org/en/architecture/news/25-01.html?back=true >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Justin Lacko < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> We may not be fully sustainable on our own yet, but I >>>>>>> think that >>>>>>> >> with >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> each passing month we are getting closer and closer to >>>>>>> that goal. >>>>>>> >> In the >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> time since I've left I've seen many new names be added to >>>>>>> the list >>>>>>> >> of >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> members. I think there would be cause for concern if that >>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>> >> happening, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> but it is. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> As Mark said, SkSp will always be about people donating >>>>>>> their time >>>>>>> >> (and >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> their money) to the continuation of the space. But this is >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> proven >>>>>>> >> business >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> model for orgs such as ours and I think we should continue >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >> embrace it. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> I think I mentioned it in the past that in my experience of >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> sitting >>>>>>> >> on >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> a different board, that organization met at a semi-private >>>>>>> school. >>>>>>> >> Each time >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> we had a meeting, we made a resolution to donate $40 or >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> >> to the >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> school, in exchange for letting us use their facilities. >>>>>>> That >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> board >>>>>>> >> had >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> money in the bank, so I wouldn't expect it from every org >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> uses >>>>>>> >> our >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space, but I think it's the right attitude towards using >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space. >>>>>>> >> A >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> gentle, non-direct request for donations in exchange for >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> >> facilities >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> wouldn't hurt anybody - and nobody would be obliged to >>>>>>> donate if >>>>>>> >> they >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> couldn't/didn't want to. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> As much as there's shared worries about the financial >>>>>>> future of >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> the >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space, it seems like we are on the right track, and now is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> time >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> re-focus our sustainability strategies on growing our >>>>>>> membership >>>>>>> >> base >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> through value-added content, like workshops and >>>>>>> circuit-bending >>>>>>> >> nights and >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> everything else. In the future, it would be greatly >>>>>>> satisfying to >>>>>>> >> see a >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> calendar with an event/workshop almost every night - >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> from >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> hacker-themed cooking classes to PGP how-tos to CTFs etc >>>>>>> etc - >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> will be >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> the draw for people to join and donate their time. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> If I'm around in August, feel free to put me down for a >>>>>>> >> multi-evening >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> course teaching Rhinoceros 3D modeling and VRay rendering >>>>>>> skills! >>>>>>> >> I'll help >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> out with SkSp however I can. And of course Friday night >>>>>>> movie >>>>>>> >> nights :) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> -Justin >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 3 May 2014 01:33, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees were >>>>>>> paid to >>>>>>> >> SkSp >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> a thank-you for using the space. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I see it more than just thank-you but as respectful rent >>>>>>> decided >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> upfront -- if she's making money teaching to mostly >>>>>>> non-members >>>>>>> >> then >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Skullspace deserves a cut for its contribution. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> It's different if is someone is charging money for a >>>>>>> members-only >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> workshop (then Skullspace needs no rent as Skullspace is >>>>>>> getting >>>>>>> >> value by a >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 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