Mnyb wrote: 
> yes but that be "good" clipping from tubes or somesuch :))

Of course! :)

> yes i do understand that it is about the level.

Only reason I keep going on about it is that it seems callesoroe still
doesn't understand that part.

> But a way to actually get a bunch of 0dB samples together is the way we
> master these days almost everything is very close to max . it's not like
> in old recording thats it's once every 2 minutes or less when the
> drummer hit's a snare unusually hard (for example ) but rather all the
> time .
> So when the producer maxes the volume suddenly it's more or less
> constant clipping .

Absolutely - all I was pointing out that it is a result of pure
incompetence. It is really simple to get lots of 0dB samples together -
just record a 1 kHz sine wave at +20 dB - but it is equally easy to
avoid, by always leaving 6 dB or so of headroom...

> yes phillips was rigth spare a couple of dB when producing CD's :)

They actually started out with that as a hard requirement - if you
violated it, you couldn't use the "compact disc" logo. Too bad they
rescinded that almost immediately :(



"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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