Not sure you can download the older version, and when I updated fedora today Firefox upgraded to Firefox quantum. It may not be easy to get students to install the old Firefox, especially if they already have a newer version of Firefox already installed. Pale moon, cyberfox and Firefox ultimate are forks of the old Firefox that may be compatible with the sqllite manager.
Sent from my Windows 10 phone ________________________________ From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.software-carpentry.org> on behalf of Mark Laufersweiler <lauf...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:09:58 AM To: discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org Cc: Mario Antonioletti Subject: Re: [Discuss] FW: Welcome to the new Firefox What about DB Browser as alternate tool? http://sqlitebrowser.org/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsqlitebrowser.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=DQfgserUTuD5rsGf0KWfvpjKlio2%2FVmjxRWNqvY49w0%3D&reserved=0> I have is -mjl On Nov 15, at 8:53 AM, Amy E. Hodge <amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu>> wrote: Hi Mario, For those already familiar with the command line, I think the method you describe could work well. However, many of the people who come to the SQL stand-alone workshops I teach based on our ecology lesson have never used the command line, and I think the overhead here would just be too much for them to learn both things simultaneously. If you are used to a GUI for everything, the Firefox extension has a much lower barrier to entry. Even some who are familiar with the command line I think benefit from initial instruction in the GUI before shifting over. And nearly everything requires new software installations, and installing Firefox is one of the easier things we ask people to install. ~ Amy Amy E. Hodge, PhD Science Data Librarian amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu> 650.556.5194 <image001.png> orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-5902-3077&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=H3w3%2BlwOATymymZ2%2F34J8u%2FEHPRQ%2FAmaoAasPSTCsM0%3D&reserved=0> Data Management Services Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell 397 Panama Mall; MC 2211 Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305 From: Mario Antonioletti <m.antoniole...@epcc.ed.ac.uk<mailto:m.antoniole...@epcc.ed.ac.uk>> Reply-To: Mario Antonioletti <m.antoniole...@epcc.ed.ac.uk<mailto:m.antoniole...@epcc.ed.ac.uk>> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 1:14 AM To: François Michonneau <francois.michonn...@gmail.com<mailto:francois.michonn...@gmail.com>> Cc: "Amy E. Hodge" <amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu>>, "discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org<mailto:discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org>" <discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org<mailto:discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org>> Subject: Re: [Discuss] FW: Welcome to the new Firefox Hi, I have previously taught the SQL lesson successfully, I thought, by just using the command line. I feel there is an incongruity here - why should SQL get special treatment when we are so purist about git? there are lots of good git clients out there but we insist that people do it on the command line yet for SQL it is different? The reason why I went with the command line was the fact that lots of people use ie (now edge) or chrome - why should we expect people to install firefox if they want to learn SQL? Using the command line is also more consistent with the other lessons: bash, git, ... Mario On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, François Michonneau wrote: Hi Amy, That's a good point. It's going to be interesting to monitor what's going to happen in the next few weeks. It looks like many addons (including some very popular commercial ones) are incompatible with this new version of firefox. I assume that the developers of these addons are going to catch up and make them compatible. However, it's not clear if it's also going to be the case for SQLite manager and this thread doesn't seem too promising: https://github.com/lazierthanthou/sqlite-manager/issues/75<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Flazierthanthou%2Fsqlite-manager%2Fissues%2F75&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=koD6eyxuoHUCxuaM95OVwf3emjfUAo2Fh%2FDhFFF%2F5%2Bs%3D&reserved=0> It might be a good idea to explore alternatives. I saw that plotly recently released a cross-platform database interface named Falcon: https://plot.ly/database-connectors/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplot.ly%2Fdatabase-connectors%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=j%2Bd8KlzUudmWwNLGz8cHYwkzemARioSimLjNW93KGUs%3D&reserved=0> (Linux version available from: https://github.com/plotly/falcon-sql-client/releases/latest<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fplotly%2Ffalcon-sql-client%2Freleases%2Flatest&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=C7pxSvlz7Fb6c%2FJ4PnVr%2FeygwO%2F1qRmm32QmTdVYHuY%3D&reserved=0>). sqlitebrowser (https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/sqlitebrowser<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsqlitebrowser%2Fsqlitebrowser&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=ljKBZiUgKyRYt9CPDfo2kjb4T0Wo7j%2FPWURlN%2Fp78Jc%3D&reserved=0>) is actively maintained and also cross-platform. cheers, -- François On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Amy E. Hodge <amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu>> wrote: I just downloaded the new Firefox Quantum and discovered that SQLite Manager no longer works – it’s automatically disabled and only gives me the option to Remove it. Hopefully the older version we still be available for a while, but we may need to make a note in the lesson materials about the version people need to use for the SQL lessons. Right now I’m seeing that they haven’t made it easy to access downloads for older versions. I’m not finding it. ~ Amy Amy E. Hodge, PhD Science Data Librarian amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu> 650.556.5194 [IMAGE] orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-5902-3077&data=02%7C01%7Ctyler.kelly%40outlook.com%7C13244cad546b43f2df8e08d52c3b5dca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463555849353068&sdata=LKDUWAVLrQ6tMHFLlxpOx7CK7ir%2FlkAf3omFUfcLyZQ%3D&reserved=0> Data Management Services Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell 397 Panama Mall; MC 2211 Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305 From: Firefox <mozi...@e.mozilla.org<mailto:mozi...@e.mozilla.org>> Reply-To: Mozilla <reply-fe9510747060047a77-100_html-241685816-1065730-...@e.mozilla.org<mailto:reply-fe9510747060047a77-100_html-241685816-1065730-...@e.mozilla.org>> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:36 AM To: "Amy E. Hodge" <amyho...@stanford.edu<mailto:amyho...@stanford.edu>> Subject: Welcome to the new Firefox Get Firefox Quantum. New. Fast. 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