I wonder if this thread is ever going to die. We've been down this path over and over and over again. It never seems to get anywhere.
The drivers license is a very good example of a badly implemented system. Answer 20 questions about some minor amount of basics. Spend 5 minutes behind the wheel with some bored examiner and you have a licence. I won't even go into the fact that in some places you don't even need to be able to read to pass the test. ex-Gov Ryan in Illinois is a real life example of a corrupt system and how truckers got their licenses. For the lighter side, grab the old Taxi show where Jim was getting his license.. What does a yellow light mean? For more professional organizations where a license means something, you actually have to work to get it. A doctor needs to do an internship. A plumber needs to apprentice. My daughter is currently in school to become a teacher and she needs to do a semester of student teaching under lots of review before they will sign off that she is qualified. Nobody here is stating that is the sort of standards that are being considered. Until they are it's not a license, but a certification that you've obtained. That kind of system takes lots of time and effort. People need to see a value in it before they will commit to doing it. What dr would submit to the rigors of being an intern if they didn't need to or see the benefits at the end of it. At the moment there is no benefit to being a licensed system admin, whatever that may mean. Certifications have become a joke. The last I saw there was a 9year old that is fully certified with all the MS standards. Yes the kid took the tests. She has some sort of photographic memory so it's just purely pulled from memory, not understanding. I feel that way about most of the certifications. In many cases you have demonstrated you can memorize the answers. I remember one of the tests that if you so happened to get the wrong random set of questions, you couldn't pass the test with the "right" answers. The answers the test considers correct were not the same as found in the subject books. The instructors for the coarse tell you that IF you get this question, the answer is blah-blah, but if this ever really happens to you, do this instead. This reflects itself in the resume world as well. Many of the candidates with alphabet soup listed for certifications turn out to be some of the weakest candidates I've come across. Not always, but more often than not. I think they feel they need that string of letters to boost their credentials. They really can't stand on their own. --Gene /~\ The ASCII Gene Rackow email: [email protected] \ / Ribbon Campaign Cyber Security Office voice: 630-252-7126 X Against HTML Argonne National Lab / \ Email! 9700 S. Cass Ave. / Argonne, IL 60439 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
