Richard Chycoski wrote:
> I don't believe that this field is quite ready for it yet, but when 
> LOPSA does get into the area of certification we need a broader-based 
> 'systems administration' program.Product based exams are for 
> 'technicians', wide-scoped professional exams are for 'engineers'. This 
> organisation is about moving forward the profession of systems 
> administration, which means that we need to look more like engineers 
> than technicians.

(Since this is a discussion of what LOPSA should do regarding professional 
standards/certification, I will invoke the standard board member disclaimer 
that I'm speaking for myself and my opinions, not for the Board or the 
organization)

This has always been more of my idea of what we should do for certification.  
Most professional certifications ("Board Certified") require four parts, not 
all of which are under the direct control/supervision of the certifying 
organization:
1) Completion of a recognized degree or other core subject educational 
curriculum (technical certification)
2) Demonstration of professional experience, such as an intern program or 
apprenticeship
3) Professionalism or ethical training and certification
4) Registration, fee

I would think that part of a LOPSA certification would include a number of 
different tracks, such that you could be a "LOPSA Certified Systems 
Administrator - Linux", "LCSA - Windows", even "LCSA - SAN" (for example).  For 
the technical certification part, we might accept an RHCT or a Novell CLA/CLP10 
(I could also see us having a "LOPSA Certified Systems Engineer" or "Architect" 
that might require an RHCE or Novell CLE10).  For #2, we would accept job 
experience.  For #3, we need to formalize things like the ethics class that 
Moose teaches pretty regularly at LISA and LOPSA events, and perhaps come up 
with an online test.

-spp
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