On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 04:20:57PM -0400, Stephen Potter wrote:
> Richard Chycoski wrote:
> > I don't believe that this field is quite ready for it yet, but when 
> > LOPSA does get into the area of certification we need a broader-based 
> > 'systems administration' program.Product based exams are for 
> > 'technicians', wide-scoped professional exams are for 'engineers'. This 
> > organisation is about moving forward the profession of systems 
> > administration, which means that we need to look more like engineers 
> > than technicians.
> 
> (Since this is a discussion of what LOPSA should do regarding professional
> standards/certification, I will invoke the standard board member disclaimer
> that I'm speaking for myself and my opinions, not for the Board or the
> organization)
> 
> This has always been more of my idea of what we should do for certification.
> Most professional certifications ("Board Certified") require four parts, not
> all of which are under the direct control/supervision of the certifying
> organization:
> 1) Completion of a recognized degree or other core subject educational
> curriculum (technical certification)

Does anyone know of any other degree programs like this?

http://matcmadison.edu/matc/offerings/programs/it-computer-systems-administration-specialist/

( Same link as above, in case of wrap foolishness )
http://tinyurl.com/dbgkun 

> 2) Demonstration of professional experience, such as an intern program or
> apprenticeship
> 3) Professionalism or ethical training and certification
> 4) Registration, fee
> 
> I would think that part of a LOPSA certification would include a number of
> different tracks, such that you could be a "LOPSA Certified Systems
> Administrator - Linux", "LCSA - Windows", even "LCSA - SAN" (for example).
> For the technical certification part, we might accept an RHCT or a Novell
> CLA/CLP10 (I could also see us having a "LOPSA Certified Systems Engineer"
> or "Architect" that might require an RHCE or Novell CLE10).  For #2, we
> would accept job experience.  For #3, we need to formalize things like the
> ethics class that Moose teaches pretty regularly at LISA and LOPSA events,
> and perhaps come up with an online test.
> 
> -spp
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