on 5/4/09 5:15 PM, Jonathan Nicol said:

> I went through AOL's process a couple years ago and it was not bad at  
> all. Sounds like they made it worse, I don't remember any of that  
> telnet/nslookup stuff.

I went through the registration process a little more than a year ago, 
for The University of Texas at Austin.  It did not have any such 
requirements at that time.  However, although the process I saw wasn't 
quite as streamlined as I would have liked, it truly is 
heads-and-shoulders above most everyone else in the business.

If you talk to anybody who is seriously deep in the spamfighting 
business (like I have been, since I worked at AOL from 95-97 and was 
their Sr. Internet Mail Administrator), you will see that pretty much 
the entire rest of the industry will violently assault you if you should 
ever say a negative word about AOL.  I know, because of my direct 
internal experience, I've had a few negative things to say about them 
myself, and many of the biggest names in the field have gone well out of 
their way to try to rip me a new one.

> Semi-related note, anyone know how to whitelist for hotmail.com// 
> live.com? I used to use SNDS, which is linked from here: 
> http://postmaster.msn.com/Services.aspx#ISPSolutions

The folks at Return Path are still in the process of finalizing their 
services for Hotmail/Windows Live.  I keep hearing about minor tweaks 
that RP is making to the process on some private anti-spam lists I'm on.

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