Hi Shaun, Lou, and Others,

On Friday, October 12, 2007, at 02:44PM, "VaShaun Jones"  wrote:
>Yeah VO plus A is fine but if I want to read a article it isn't  
>reading just the article it reads a sentence or two and stop.
>On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> Echo Voice Over Cursor Contents:
>> VO+A
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>> Echo Window Contents:
>> VO+Shift+W
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>> Reminder:
>> At any time, you can press VO+HH (that is, hold down the VO keys  
>> and press "H" twice) to get a list of all possible VO commands that  
>> you can enter at that moment in time.
>>
>> Lou.

For problem cases I send this to TextEdit.  It's only a few more
key presses: command+a, VO-keys+m, right arrow, down arrow,
"s" (that's the "s" key pressed), right arrow, up arrow, right arrow,
return. Hold down command+tab until you hear "TextEdit" and release
the tab key and the text will start reading through.  Each of 
those was literally one key tapped.  This is a slightly shortened
form of the "Safari to TextEdit" instructions I posted in response to
Dane's reply to your post on reading a PC Magazine article.

The streamlined bits are the "s" to go to "services" instead of more
arrow keys and the command+tab to rotate through all active
applications.  This actually works faster than choosing TextEdit 
from the Dock.

And, yes, you could probably do a key binding assignment with 
a third party app, but the above should work for any Mac.

VoiceOver stopping is usually due  to a problem link in the web page.

In principle  the VO-keys+Shift+W command that Lou mentions and
that others have described should allow you to read the web page in
chunks, and then with the aid of Safari keyboard shortcuts such as
space bar to scroll down a page, issuing another VO-keys+Shift+W
should allow you to page through the rest of the HTML content with just
a small overlap of text. (Of course, you'll want to hide address bar and
bookmarks bar in this mode so that they are not also echoed. <smile>).

In practice I don't find that this works reliably to let me go through the 
whole web page.  Generally, I have better success when I make sure
that VoiceOver has stopped speaking before I page down and sometimes
I can get VoiceOver to continue by turning it off and on again.

Cheers,

Esther 

>> === Original Message ===
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>> listers is there a say all command for continually reading a web
>> page? Please don't tell me that locking the VO keys and arrowing down
>> is the answer. If so then web navigation is a bigger problem then not
>> being able to move to headers and such.
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