Hi Esther,
My problem is the shortcut keys don't seem to work I create. They are listed as they should be, but the key combinations don't work. This is why I was curious as to the checkboxes.

Thanks

Take Care

John Panarese

On Feb 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi John,

As far as I can tell, this information about checkboxes for new shortcut key definitions is not accurate and/or not used. That is, if you interact with the outline of shortcut key definitions to check on the definitions of
existing keyboard shortcuts that the system has assigned, checking or
unchecking boxes has an effect.

However, if I'm adding new shortcuts that will show up in the folder for
"Application Keyboard Shortcuts"  in the outline, all of these seem to
come up with checkbox information, too, but this is ignored.

I was going to describe this in my post about making a keyboard shortcut to jump to a time in iTunes (for the ReplayAt Applescript that Tim posted about), but thought it might be too confusing. The instructions I gave --
which only involve adding a new keyboard shortcut by pressing the "+"
button -- are perfectly complete.  It's only if you want to delete the
shortcut that you added or explore the other shortcuts defined in the outline that you would ever hear anything about checkboxes. Furthermore, I don't think the outline is a good way to find out a list of keyboard shortcuts, since they don't list everything, and it's not the easiest way to find out about shortcuts. They don't even contain everything that Apple documents (somewhere), and they certainly don't contain things that people have stumbled across that are
in the works, or that aren't documented but have been used, etc.

For specific apps, like iTunes, what I do is try a keystroke combination first to see whether anything is recognized, then I use that as a shortcut when I make
my definition.  I don't make lots of these.

Making a definition for all apps is certainly trickier. Also, since the general rule is that you should create the shortcut binding when the application is closed, you may have to restart your computer for a definition that works for all apps to operate properly. I think the shortcuts get read in when the app first starts, so it stays in effect as long as the app is in use and the shortcut definition is in place. If you've added a shortcut, and happened to interact with the outline
before leaving the Systems Preferences menu, you'd hear the bits about
unchecked checkboxes, but everything will work all the same.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Esther

P.S. It may be different in Leopard. One reason that I don't post immediately about all these topics, and why I've wanted to have Tim and others check on the AppleScripts, etc. is that I'm still running Tiger. So while I think my
instructions will work for Leopard, too, I can't check this.

On  Feb 08, 2008, at 10:37AM, John Panarese wrote:
Hi folks,
    There is probably a simple answer to this, but when attempting
to add the start speaking text and a few other keyboard shortcuts, I
have noticed that though the shortcuts show up in the table, the
checkboxes are unchecked and I can't check them.  I've tried a bunch
of things, but ZI just can't get the box to change in status.  Is
there any reason anyone can think of why this might be happening?




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