Hi Søren, Shaun, and James, Shaun asked: >>SJ; Listers how does one drag and drop using the Mac and when >> instructions for doing a drag and drop says to drag and drop a file >> or folder into the main content area of an application what are they >> meaning?
and Søren replied: >SøJ: The drag and drop works as follows: >1: Find the item you want to drag with your VO cursor >2: press VO command f5 to move the mouse to the item you want to drag >3: Press VO command shift space to start dragging >4: Find the place with your VO cursor where you want to drop the item >5: Press VO command f5 again to move the mouse to your selected point >6: Press VO command shift space again to drop the item. >I haven't tried the program you have posted a link to, but I'll check >it out to see if it works. I use drag and drop while changeing the >language in the system prefferences. James commented: JA: I do not know if this drag and drop capabilities were expanded in 10.5.2, but i seem to remember drag and drop only being usable in list views i.e. the language selection list. Perhaps someone could clarify? I think James is correct that one of the problems using VoiceOver's drag and drop in general cases, such as when you have "a main content area" is that you need a place the VoiceOver cursor can navigate to (step 4 of Søren's instructions). In other cases and for some apps, the instructions are to drag and drop files or folders into an area on your screen where there is no particular place to route your VoiceOver cursor. This was the case for putting items into the dock, for instance, and why having an "additemtodock" script that could do this formed the basis of the two very accessible Automator actions at Tim's site: http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html and (a different version) at Greg's site: http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/workflows It is possible to use VoiceOver and your mouse or trackpad to drag and drop items into areas on your screen, but you have to hold down your mouse or trackpad buttons on an item while you physically move your mouse and use VoiceOver to announce your position in x and y screen coordinates as you move until you get to your destination and can release the button. But, you have to know before you start moving the approximate screen coordinates of the region you're aiming for. And you'll want to lock your VoiceOver cursor so that all you have to press is the F5 key (or fn+F5 keys) to monitor your progress -- or if you know that it's a nearby drag and drop you can use Mouse Keys (or maybe numpad commander which I don't have access to in Tiger) to move your mouse, which may also be possible. Here's a reference (from the archives) with Josh's description of how he used this method of drag and drop to move content to his iPod: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg14237.html HTH. Let us know what happens. Cheers, Esther
