Hi, I've just looked at what you aid, and it appears that this feature
does not work exactly how it should. Hmmm. Am i doing something wrong?
I put some text in bold some text underlined and some txt in italics
on the same line and it did not tell me when it changed. Perhaps VO
prefs are damaged?
Thanks
Best James
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On 15 Apr 2008, at 20:08, John J Herzog wrote:
Hi James,
For directions, you say to adjust the verbosity setting for text
attributes
in voice over.
Is this the same dialogue box that pops up when you hit the VO keys
plus V
and right arrow to text attributes?
If so, it stil does not appear to read all text attributes as they
change.
Consider the following line of text in a document.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of our party.
If I were to underline just the words all, and aid, which are in the
middle
of the sentence, voice over would not tell me of this unless I read
by word.
When I had the "say all attributes" option enabled and read by line,
voice
over only told me what the attributes were at the beginning of each
line and
not the rest.
I'm sorry to harp on this issue but I will need precise formatting
in law
school.
I tried asking the people at the apple store for help, but nobody
knew voice
over. One of the trainers even recommended JAWS for windows instead!
So, did I access the right verbosity option? Or is the one you speak
of
different? Also, what reading commands should I use to be notified
of all
changes? I tried with the up and down arrows, and even the VO keys
plus S
and vo keys plus P commands, all to no avail.
Thanks for helping out!
-----Original Message-----
From: James Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:06 PM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by
theblind
Subject: Re: questions about mac and word processing
Hi John,
Don't worry, that's what this list is here for, to help users and new
users alike.
Well...
Control + Option + T will tell you the attributes of the text the
cursor is on, but this is not really necessary generally as you can
turn the text attributes option on in the Voice Over Utility. To do
this do the following: (I am assuming that you are using a desktop
Mac, if not you might need to hold down the FN key with the Control +
Option F8 to open the Utility)
1. Open VO Utility with Control + Option + F8
2. Navigate to the "Verbosity" page
3. Navigate to the "When text attributes change..." drop down box
where you'll see three options - these are self- explanatory.
Regarding the footnotes, you can do your footnotes in the text i.e.
author book title publisher etc and then copy them and put them in the
footnotes when you have all the footnote set out the way you want it.
If you're going to get Nisus contact me off list if you like and I may
be able to help you get your bearings as it is what i am currently
using to write my Dissertation
All the best
James
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On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:23, John J Herzog wrote:
Hi James,
Thank you for answering some of my questions.
As far as the footnotes go, I will need to be able to read and
modify all of
them. So this might be a bit of a problem.
Second, regarding text attributes, what voice over commands do I
have to use
to be notified of the changes as I'm reading?
Forgive my ignorance, as I have spent little time with a mac.
However, I
like what I've seen thus far, and want to make the best out of my
upcoming
visit to the apple store.
Thanks so much,
John J Herzog
-----Original Message-----
From: James Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:21 AM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by
theblind
Subject: Re: questions about mac and word processing
Hi Jon,
Yes Voice Over will tell when font and text attributes change.
What do you mean when you say can Voice Over read footnotes? If you
mean are they accesible with VO then the answer is sort of yes if
using Nisus Writer. It's not feasible past the first page of your
Nisus document, but hopefully the developers are working on this.
Best
James
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On 14 Apr 2008, at 15:36, John J Herzog wrote:
Hi list,
As a potential mac switcher, I have a few questions about creating
complex
word documents. I was hoping you could shed some light on this
subject for
me.
If using voice over, is it possible to determine how a document is
formatted? In other words, can you tell when text is indented, when
the font
style changes, and what portions are underlined, bolded, etc?
Also, is there a way to read foot notes?
I briefly looked over the voice over manual and do not see any of
this
information. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
John J Herzog
