Hi Bernard,
Bernhard Dippold wrote (14-04-10 00:52)
[...]
You just asked for examples to help you in your process for improved
communication - and this is an example is one of a communication problem.
But as it ended in a final decision (by whom?) even for the future, I
want the CC to discuss it.
You're right that this goes beyond your request and I apology for
hijacking this thread - I should have started a new one.
No need to apologize. And AFAIAC, changing the subject is well enough to
start your topic.
Looks as if you ask the council to reconsider the decision (...) to
not change further on the product-independent odf icons. Honestly, I
don't see much ground for that.
You mentioned your position some time ago - but as Community Contributor
Representative I think you are my representative in the CC, and one of
the CC's tasks is to "Arbitrate community members' appeals of decisions
by the Project Leads and other community authorities".
This decision has not been made in the community - none of the relevant
projects nor the CC have been involved as far as I know.
OK, thanks for this extra information. To me that was not so clear and I
didn't connect it tight enough to the community council task as you
point to. Thanks for helping and correcting me.
I showed that it is possible to create icons that cover both aspects:
promoting ODF and OOo at the same time.
A reaction like "OOo symbols at the document icons of our product
OpenOffice.org will no longer be allowed" is a political decision that
has to be defined either by the relevant projects or by the Community
Council - not by the ESC or one contributor (even if it is the main code
contributor) without involving the central community structures.
Your point is clear. I will bring it in the council.
For me it has very practical effects: If I (or other community members)
finish the work on the "compromise icons" - will they have a chance to
be implemented? In my opinion they serve OOo better than the present ones.
And if a re-worked iconset would lead to an improved acceptance by some
native-lang communities, it would serve our community as a whole...
[...]
Sorry again that I didn't start a new thread - if there are still open
questions and remarks to be posted, I'd propose to start it and leave
this one to your request for other examples of negative and positive
co-operation and actions.
It was not explicitly my intention to gather all kind of examples in the
thread I started. And as said: the change of the subject is sufficient IMO.
About open questions: I wonder if you/others have links to threads /
posts on project lists where there has been discussion about this aspect
of the icons.
Regards,
Cor
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