On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 14:23 -0400, Penny Golightley wrote:
> We have the bot as a reminder because historically, if we didn't have
> an email reminder the day of the meeting then no one would show up. We
> found a reminder email the day of goes a long way. Meetings are at 7pm
> every tuesday. There has not been an exception to this since our
> opening day back in May. If you want to come to a meeting, that's
> great. However, I don't think it's Trever's or my responsibility to
> remind everyone. If you need a reminder the day before, set your phone
> to remind you. There's no reason why we should have to reprogram Phong
> to remind everyone. We will stick with the system that has worked for
> us for the past year.
> 
> And I just want to repeat a very key important point: it is NOT
> Trever's and my job to annoy people to come to our meetings. Any
> information you need about the goings on of the space is on our
> website. Any more questions or concerns about this should be sent to
> me personally. I don't want to spam our whole email list about this
> anymore.

Or we could talk about it on the list in public or on a tuesday meeting.
I think it is more excellent to have a public airing of grievances
concerning tuesdays where we can have another tuesday thread instead of
a private tuesday party in penny's inbox every other tuesday.
> 
> Penny Golightley
> [email protected]
> 
> On Oct 24, 2012 1:45 PM, "Michael James" <[email protected]> wrote:
>         Trever, if meetings are every Tuesday, why do we even have the
>         bot reminder at?  if we are going to have the bot reminder, 24
>         hours is just a little more lead time, that's  all.
>         
>         
>         -Michael
>         
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>                 Message: 1
>                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:12:55 -0400 (EDT)
>                 From: [email protected]
>                 To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" <[email protected]>
>                 Subject: [SH-Discuss]  bot
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>                 Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs before
>                 the next meeting.
>                 Maybe more warning would get more people to show up?
>                 Just a thought.
>                 
>                 Anyway,
>                 What do you have going on tonight (wed night)?
>                 
>                 Andy
>                 Dungeon Studios Prototyping
>                 www.dsprototyping.com
>                 [email protected]
>                 (330)814-6103
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>                 
>                 Message: 2
>                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:26:03 -0400 (EDT)
>                 From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>                 To: [email protected]
>                 Subject: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2012-10-23
>                 Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>                 
>                 Namaste, hakkers!
>                 
>                 I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2012-10-23
>                 and that the minutes are posted. They are visible on
>                 the web at http://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/23-10-2012.
>                 I've also included them in this mail for reading at
>                 your leisure:
>                 
>                 {{Infobox_meeting
>                 |time=7PM
>                 |date=2012-10-23
>                 |venue=1456 Riverside
>                 |next=Meetings/30-10-2012
>                 |previous=Meetings/16-10-2012
>                 }}
>                 
>                 
>                 = Agenda =
>                 
>                 * '''Note Taker:''' Dan Swick
>                 * '''Moderator:''' Trever Fischer
>                 
>                 == Introduction and Names ==
>                 
>                 * Devin has a saw but doesn't play in a band.
>                 * Paul gets ready for vacation.
>                 * Hannah is an artisan.
>                 * Wendy lives across from Penny, the master baker
>                 * Dan gets annoyed at being called "The Man."
>                 * Trever doesn't play Minecraft but runs a really nice
>                 server.
>                 * Andrew is currently studying for an exam.
>                 
>                 
>                 == Announcements ==
>                 
>                 * We has a bandsaws.
>                 * We have parts trays, welding goggles.
>                 * We have a label printer.
>                 * Penny has started work on her wine-cork curtains.
>                 * Saturday is board tour of 21 W. North Street. Will
>                 try to sign lease. Move-in Dec 1, opening day Jan 5.
>                 * We need speakers for next month and December.
>                 * Devin will do a welding class in December!
>                 * Trever will do intro to Arduino, Jan 7.
>                 * Paul will do a sharpening workshop.
>                 * Trever worked on a project called "Spiff." Will be
>                 using for inventory, member payments, profile fields,
>                 database of all member stuff. Can be used to track
>                 training. Can schedule classes.
>                 * QR codes are used for inventory, will take you
>                 straight to Spiff page.
>                 * Devin brought Jello(R) shots.
>                 * 2nd Wednesday of next month, intro to soldering.
>                 
>                 == Membership ==
>                 * None.
>                 
>                 == Financial Report ==
>                 * Funds in bank: $3138.37
>                 
>                 == Proposals ==
>                 
>                 <!--
>                 Proposal format:
>                 
>                 * '''Proposal''' by --~~~~:
>                 
>                 Copy the above example verbatim, and place it
>                 immediately below this line. -->
>                 '''SYN/HAK should be referred to as a makerspace and
>                 not a hacker space.''' by
>                 --[[Special:Contributions/76.188.197.165|
>                 76.188.197.165]] 23:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT): Markus
>                 Vogl (written by Penny Golightley)
>                 
>                 This reasons for this proposal is as follows:
>                 People are intimidated by the word hacker. This has
>                 been observed by a few of our members when marketing
>                 the space and it was even enough of an issue to be
>                 brought up at our WSKU interview. The term makerspace
>                 is friendlier to the general population than
>                 hackerspace. Markus told us at the last meeting he
>                 attended that the Chicago makerspace said they had a
>                 lot more success with the term makerspace than
>                 hackerspace. This may be a better PR move.
>                 ** Nobody will be forced to call it anything.
>                 
>                 * '''Alternative proposal''' by --[[User:Tdfischer|
>                 Tdfischer]] 00:13, 23 October 2012 (EDT): We shouldn't
>                 have a tagline in any promotional material. Members
>                 should be free to call it what they want.
>                 
>                 ** Trever believes that the label is a false
>                 dichotomy. We shouldn't call it anything, so it should
>                 be called whatever we want. Take off the word
>                 "Hackerspace" out of logos and promotional material.
>                 Still up in the air, maybe "Make Share Create?"
>                 Noisebridge - "We spurn the key and lock."
>                 
>                 
>                 * '''Membership Responsibilities/Titles/Perks''' by
>                 --[[User:Windcask|Windcask]] 14:05, 23 October 2012
>                 (EDT): There's enough going on (and there will be lots
>                 more after we get the space) that it might be time to
>                 talk about membership responsibilities and holding
>                 those who hold them to account. All of us should be
>                 equally responsible for the success or failure of the
>                 space as an organization and not rely on certain
>                 higher-level members to move things along. Examples of
>                 duties: PR/Social Media presence, custodial duties,
>                 wiki spam cleanup, maintenance and inventory of
>                 equipment, speaking events, demonstrations to the
>                 public, etc.
>                 
>                 Holding to responsibilities could be accomplished by
>                 positive reinforcement of some kind (special titles,
>                 access to VPS services, higher-level trust in Syn/Hak
>                 electronic infrastructure, reduced memberships, etc.).
>                 * "Being awesome to everyone" should be enough to
>                 motivate members to pitch in and help out. Leadership
>                 should take the lead in the sharing of
>                 responsibilities. Revisit later when it actually
>                 becomes a problem.
>                 
>                 * '''SysAdmin Meetings''' - Also, proposal for
>                 monthly/bi-monthly strategy meetings involving members
>                 and important non-members (relrod for example) to talk
>                 solely about website, social media, and space
>                 electronics administration (servers, lab workstations,
>                 door keys, etc.). Could be physical, could be
>                 conference call or IRC chat.
>                 Passed - 60 minutes before meeting last week in month,
>                 get computer-inclined people involved.
>                 
>                 == Discussion Items ==
>                 
>                 * (Moved to discussion items) * '''Inventapalooza'''
>                 by Devin : Tagline/address gets figured out, but Devin
>                 will be working out a whole PR campaign and pay for
>                 it.
>                 
>                 ------------------------------
>                 
>                 Message: 3
>                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:36:32 -0400
>                 From: Trever Fischer <[email protected]>
>                 To: SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]>
>                 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] bot
>                 Message-ID:
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>                 
>                 On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 04:12 -0400,
>                 [email protected] wrote:
>                 > Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs
>                 before the next meeting.
>                 > Maybe more warning would get more people to show up?
>                 Just a thought.
>                 
>                 Meetings are every Tuesday. No need to warn people of
>                 something that
>                 happens every week without fail.
>                 
>                 >
>                 > Anyway,
>                 > What do you have going on tonight (wed night)?
>                 Tonight is Open Hacking Night, where people are
>                 invited to come in and
>                 make things. Nothing exceptional has been planned.
>                 
>                 I plan on working on my D&D table design a bit more by
>                 finishing the
>                 player deck, assembling some legs, and working on my
>                 control circuitry.
>                 >
>                 > Andy
>                 > Dungeon Studios Prototyping
>                 > www.dsprototyping.com
>                 > [email protected]
>                 > (330)814-6103
>                 >
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