Guys, Michael is simply requesting a proposal to membership to change (or potentially add to) the sends. We should treat it as such, we know that it is nobody's particular job to remind membership to come as we have a standing meeting Tuesday's at 7pm.
Nonetheless it is a valid request. Let's put it to membership's vote. Therefore I propose to add Michael's request to the next meeting agenda for voting: Michael would like to change the bot's reminder time to 24hrs prior. May I also suggest to keep the tone of these conversations cordial and professional :) Best Markus From: Penny Golightley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 16, Issue 12 We have the bot as a reminder because historically, if we didn't have an email reminder the day of the meeting then no one would show up. We found a reminder email the day of goes a long way. Meetings are at 7pm every tuesday. There has not been an exception to this since our opening day back in May. If you want to come to a meeting, that's great. However, I don't think it's Trever's or my responsibility to remind everyone. If you need a reminder the day before, set your phone to remind you. There's no reason why we should have to reprogram Phong to remind everyone. We will stick with the system that has worked for us for the past year. And I just want to repeat a very key important point: it is NOT Trever's and my job to annoy people to come to our meetings. Any information you need about the goings on of the space is on our website. Any more questions or concerns about this should be sent to me personally. I don't want to spam our whole email list about this anymore. Penny Golightley [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On Oct 24, 2012 1:45 PM, "Michael James" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Trever, if meetings are every Tuesday, why do we even have the bot reminder at? if we are going to have the bot reminder, 24 hours is just a little more lead time, that's all. -Michael On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, wrote: Send Discuss mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. bot ([email protected]) 2. Meeting minutes from 2012-10-23 ([email protected]) 3. Re: bot (Trever Fischer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" <[email protected]> Subject: [SH-Discuss] bot Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs before the next meeting. Maybe more warning would get more people to show up? Just a thought. Anyway, What do you have going on tonight (wed night)? Andy Dungeon Studios Prototyping www.dsprototyping.com<http://www.dsprototyping.com> [email protected] (330)814-6103<tel:%28330%29814-6103> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2012-10-23 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Namaste, hakkers! I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2012-10-23 and that the minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at http://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/23-10-2012. I've also included them in this mail for reading at your leisure: {{Infobox_meeting |time=7PM |date=2012-10-23 |venue=1456 Riverside |next=Meetings/30-10-2012 |previous=Meetings/16-10-2012 }} = Agenda = * '''Note Taker:''' Dan Swick * '''Moderator:''' Trever Fischer == Introduction and Names == * Devin has a saw but doesn't play in a band. * Paul gets ready for vacation. * Hannah is an artisan. * Wendy lives across from Penny, the master baker * Dan gets annoyed at being called "The Man." * Trever doesn't play Minecraft but runs a really nice server. * Andrew is currently studying for an exam. == Announcements == * We has a bandsaws. * We have parts trays, welding goggles. * We have a label printer. * Penny has started work on her wine-cork curtains. * Saturday is board tour of 21 W. North Street. Will try to sign lease. Move-in Dec 1, opening day Jan 5. * We need speakers for next month and December. * Devin will do a welding class in December! * Trever will do intro to Arduino, Jan 7. * Paul will do a sharpening workshop. * Trever worked on a project called "Spiff." Will be using for inventory, member payments, profile fields, database of all member stuff. Can be used to track training. Can schedule classes. * QR codes are used for inventory, will take you straight to Spiff page. * Devin brought Jello(R) shots. * 2nd Wednesday of next month, intro to soldering. == Membership == * None. == Financial Report == * Funds in bank: $3138.37 == Proposals == <!-- Proposal format: * '''Proposal''' by --~~~~: Copy the above example verbatim, and place it immediately below this line. --> '''SYN/HAK should be referred to as a makerspace and not a hacker space.''' by --[[Special:Contributions/76.188.197.165<http://76.188.197.165>|76.188.197.165]] 23:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT): Markus Vogl (written by Penny Golightley) This reasons for this proposal is as follows: People are intimidated by the word hacker. This has been observed by a few of our members when marketing the space and it was even enough of an issue to be brought up at our WSKU interview. The term makerspace is friendlier to the general population than hackerspace. Markus told us at the last meeting he attended that the Chicago makerspace said they had a lot more success with the term makerspace than hackerspace. This may be a better PR move. ** Nobody will be forced to call it anything. * '''Alternative proposal''' by --[[User:Tdfischer|Tdfischer]] 00:13, 23 October 2012 (EDT): We shouldn't have a tagline in any promotional material. Members should be free to call it what they want. ** Trever believes that the label is a false dichotomy. We shouldn't call it anything, so it should be called whatever we want. Take off the word "Hackerspace" out of logos and promotional material. Still up in the air, maybe "Make Share Create?" Noisebridge - "We spurn the key and lock." * '''Membership Responsibilities/Titles/Perks''' by --[[User:Windcask|Windcask]] 14:05, 23 October 2012 (EDT): There's enough going on (and there will be lots more after we get the space) that it might be time to talk about membership responsibilities and holding those who hold them to account. All of us should be equally responsible for the success or failure of the space as an organization and not rely on certain higher-level members to move things along. Examples of duties: PR/Social Media presence, custodial duties, wiki spam cleanup, maintenance and inventory of equipment, speaking events, demonstrations to the public, etc. Holding to responsibilities could be accomplished by positive reinforcement of some kind (special titles, access to VPS services, higher-level trust in Syn/Hak electronic infrastructure, reduced memberships, etc.). * "Being awesome to everyone" should be enough to motivate members to pitch in and help out. Leadership should take the lead in the sharing of responsibilities. Revisit later when it actually becomes a problem. * '''SysAdmin Meetings''' - Also, proposal for monthly/bi-monthly strategy meetings involving members and important non-members (relrod for example) to talk solely about website, social media, and space electronics administration (servers, lab workstations, door keys, etc.). Could be physical, could be conference call or IRC chat. Passed - 60 minutes before meeting last week in month, get computer-inclined people involved. == Discussion Items == * (Moved to discussion items) * '''Inventapalooza''' by Devin : Tagline/address gets figured out, but Devin will be working out a whole PR campaign and pay for it. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:36:32 -0400 From: Trever Fischer <[email protected]> To: SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] bot Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 04:12 -0400, [email protected] wrote: > Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs before the next meeting. > Maybe more warning would get more people to show up? Just a thought. Meetings are every Tuesday. No need to warn people of something that happens every week without fail. > > Anyway, > What do you have going on tonight (wed night)? Tonight is Open Hacking Night, where people are invited to come in and make things. Nothing exceptional has been planned. I plan on working on my D&D table design a bit more by finishing the player deck, assembling some legs, and working on my control circuitry. > > Andy > Dungeon Studios Prototyping > www.dsprototyping.com<http://www.dsprototyping.com> > [email protected] > (330)814-6103<tel:%28330%29814-6103> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss End of Discuss Digest, Vol 16, Issue 12 *************************************** _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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