I guess then the larger question is how did we let people know that that
when giving us their email that they were being added to the discuss list
and not the announce list?


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Torrie Fischer <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 19:40:43 Justin Herman wrote:
> > We have an IRC.
> >
> > I really like the idea of having the discussion as just that a
> discussion.
> > Then create a mailing list for our newsletter. That way we can offer
> people
> > to join that without seeing all of our crazy!
>
> you mean annou...@synhak.org?
>
> cuz thats what annou...@synhak.org is meant for.
>
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Philip P. Patnode
> <ppatn...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > Merely a suggestion, but has anyone considered a "chat room" on the SH
> > > webpage?
> > >
> > > Check out this link for an example of a open chat session that can
> appear
> > > on synhak.org at no cost to the org.
> > >
> > > Link = http://chatango.com/creategroup?html5&ts=0010000009234112500
> > >
> > > Might be a good place for all off-topic conversations.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Steve Radonich IV
> <nesfr...@outlook.com>wrote:
> > >>  I personally would love to see forums where we could all post and
> have
> > >>
> > >> a thread for projects we are working on
> > >>
> > >> --- Original Message ---
> > >>
> > >> From: "Chris Egeland" <ch...@chrisegeland.com>
> > >> Sent: November 13, 2013 4:52 PM
> > >> To: discuss@synhak.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Offtopic List?
> > >>
> > >>  *watches the subscriber count jump by two*
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, the subreddit exists.  Nothing really gets posted to it due to
> its
> > >> low subscriber count.
> > >>
> > >> We usually post stuff to /r/Akron and /r/Cleveland rather than to the
> > >> subreddit itself.  However, if you really value your precious interweb
> > >> points, feel free to post something there and ask for up-phongs to the
> > >> negative x-axis.  At least I'll upvote you.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> On 11/13/2013 4:40 PM, Ben Lippincott wrote:
> > >>
> > >> WHAT?! WHY WAS I NOT TOLD ABOUT THIS? aaaaaaa reddit i love you
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Chris Egeland
> > >> <ch...@chrisegeland.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Forums were discussed a couple of years ago in the beginning.  The
> > >> opposition to them was that people would have to register in order to
> use
> > >> them, and then it's another web app that we have to maintain, apply
> > >> security patches to, and everyone else would have to remember
> credentials
> > >> for.  Personally, I don't think the community (members, friends of the
> > >> space, people interested in us, etc) is large enough to justify
> running
> > >> something like vBulletin, SMF or phpBB.
> > >>
> > >> Reddit is kinda already implemented (we have a SYN/HAK subreddit),
> but I
> > >> think only a handful of us actually use the site.  The subreddit has
> > >> something like six posts in 8 months.
> > >>
> > >> More mailing lists appeals to me because it makes it possible for
> people
> > >> to subscribe to channels of discussion that are relevant to them.  For
> > >> example, if we were to start making mailing lists that are specific to
> > >> individual projects (for example, the Power Racing Series cars),
> someone
> > >> who is uninterested in the project could browse the pipermail
> archives if
> > >> they wanted to see what was going on with the project.  If they were
> then
> > >> interested in the project, they could join the list and become active
> > >> that
> > >> way.
> > >>
> > >> Sure, it's nice to have one big massive list that everyone subscribes
> to,
> > >> but eventually you start to get the people that are overwhelmed with
> the
> > >> amount of email they are receiving.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 11/13/2013 4:20 PM, Ben Lippincott wrote:
> > >>
> > >> We could make a private subreddit
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Seems like a different medium might work better. I fear that different
> > >> people will have different opinions about what is off-topic.
> > >> Maybe instead....
> > >> Fourm
> > >> Reddit
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ben Lippincott <
> > >> benji.lippinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Wooot! Let's do it!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Bethany Munyan
> > >> <beth.mun...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking the same thing. I like the idea of having an
> 'off-topic'
> > >> mailing list.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Chris Egeland
> > >> <ch...@chrisegeland.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey hackers!
> > >>
> > >> I've been watching the mailing lists very closely for some time now,
> and
> > >> have noticed a general uptrend in the volume of email sent to the
> discuss
> > >> list.  Sometimes we get offtopic and go off on tangents about toast,
> or
> > >> other topics which are fun to talk about, but are ultimately
> irrelevant
> > >> to
> > >> the space itself.  Usually, this isn't a problem, but for someone who
> is
> > >> interested in the space, but not the minutiae of every little bit of
> > >> day-to-day operations, it can quickly turn into an overwhelming
> amount of
> > >> email.
> > >>
> > >> Today, I'm asking for input on how we should proceed with the mailing
> > >> lists.  As you may know, we currently have 5 lists, two of which are
> > >> public, one semipublic, and two private. discuss@synhak.org and
> > >> annou...@synhak.org are the two that everyone knows about.  Members
> may
> > >> know that they are automatically subscribed to memb...@synhak.org.
> > >>
> > >>  Board members are subscribed to bo...@synhak.org and us sysadmin
> folk
> > >>
> > >> are members of sysad...@synhak.org.
> > >>
> > >> My recommendation is to create an "offtopic" list, which would have
> very
> > >> very lax rules on what can be posted.  Anything you want to chat
> about.
> > >>
> > >>  Want to debate why the RubberDucks is a terrible team name and the
> Aeros
> > >>
> > >> was WAY better?  Sure, no problem.  Got a pothole on Market street
> that
> > >> irks you every day?  Have at it.  Joke threads? Toast? No problem.
>  The
> > >> other side to this idea is that the discuss list would have some basic
> > >> rules imposed that mean that any topics to the discuss list would be
> > >> required to be relevant to the space itself.  Projects occurring at
> the
> > >> space would be relevant topics, open hours discussion, meeting
> minutes,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> So, let me know what you guys think.  I'm not officially proposing
> this,
> > >> but we may chat about it at the next meeting as a discussion topic,
> > >> because
> > >> it would fundamentally mean we change how the mailing lists are
> organized
> > >> and structured.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>   --
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >>  Ben Lippincott
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>  --
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >>  Ben Lippincott
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing
> > >> listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>  --
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >>  Ben Lippincott
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing
> > >> listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Discuss mailing list
> > >> Discuss@synhak.org
> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > Discuss@synhak.org
> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@synhak.org
> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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