I should say I don't mean to belittle anyone either that is never my goal in life, its simply a major peeve of mine when good sense starts being explained as if we're a bunch of children over incredibly low risk. Some valves may need re-tightening but I think I'll hold it together.
Happy hacking. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:35 AM, a l <leit...@gmail.com> wrote: > The window in the door affords a luxurious view of about 25sqft of our > total 4000sqft. Being "on display" is not that much of an issue, not all > that different from the live Web cam that's been running at SynHak since > before 21w. north. > We are a public space open to the community. During planned business hours > the door shall remain unlocked but if the security of our members > ,visitors, or equipment is at risk it is wise for occupants of the space to > lock the door. > The door currently installed i might add has a full height hinge and is > constructed out of aluminum. We are 3-4 blocks from the court house and > police precinct. If we begin to regularly hold late hours I'm sure we > could request additional patrols. We are also located next to the marines > recruiting office which I am lead to believe does not tolerate vagrants > causing trouble. > In summary I think the risk posed by violent drug users, Romero zombies, > the lord humungus, reavers, and ETs to be overblown. 28Days Later zombies > though... > > A large display/intercom of live video feed of the front door a la the > lone gunmen would be a nice addition for the back 40. I will keep an eye > out for such an intercom. Perhaps an old baby monitor could be repurosed... > > I do not mean to belittle any ones concerns and apologize if it comes > across that way. > > see you at the space, > Andrew L > On Jan 23, 2014 11:44 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more >> deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of >> the day and night. >> >> Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of >> people in residence and watching them go about their business. >> >> SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. >> >> IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode >> <ppatn...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode >>> <ppatn...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On the subject of working alone, being safe. >>>> >>>> I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, >>>> working alone in his garage. >>>> >>>> The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. >>>> Damn near killed him. >>>> >>>> Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident >>>> happened and cut off his right hand. >>>> >>>> He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. >>>> >>>> It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone >>>> or with somebody around. >>>> >>>> To each his own at SH, with variable risk. >>>> >>>> For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. >>>> >>>> PPP >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland <ch...@chrisegeland.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode < >>>>> ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever >>>>>> alone in the space, day or night. >>>>>> >>>>> I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to >>>>> visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking >>>>> you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to >>>>> ensure your safety. However, the concept of "never allowing a single >>>>> person alone in the space" defeats the purpose of the space. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar >>>>>> hoppers. >>>>>> >>>>> Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. >>>>> Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. >>>>> While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as >>>>> diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities >>>>> that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space >>>>> to engage in said activities. >>>>> >>>>> If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, >>>>> what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will >>>>>> increase the level of safety for all involved. >>>>>> >>>>> It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know >>>>> of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that >>>>> no >>>>> one else is around for time to "decompress" and not deal with social >>>>> interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for >>>>> 2 >>>>> hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people >>>>> be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed >>>>> up for. >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is >>>>> eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't >>>>> find >>>>> someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to >>>>> go with you or meet you there, >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have >>>>>> been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer >>>>>> have a cellphone. >>>>>> >>>>> True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it >>>>> is wise to employ the buddy system. However, making it a mandated >>>>> requirement isn't a good idea. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, add a *doorbell* >>>>>> >>>>> Work in progress >>>>> >>>>>> and a *peephole* to the entrance. >>>>>> >>>>> Does the 1'x1' glass pane already in the door not count as a peephole? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are >>>>>> they on a timer or an auto-sensor? >>>>>> >>>>> They've been on for like 4 days straight. They are on a switch. We >>>>> are discussing putting them onto a timer or photocell for purposes of not >>>>> running lights during sunlight hours. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and >>>>>> because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. >>>>>> >>>>>> PPP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>>>>> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: >>>>>>> > Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also >>>>>>> if you >>>>>>> > see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not >>>>>>> available >>>>>>> > dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or >>>>>>> Emergency >>>>>>> > 911. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > *To request a safety escort:* >>>>>>> > Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > *To request a battery jump:* >>>>>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* >>>>>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: >>>>>>> > http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front >>>>>>> door. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l <leit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > > It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your >>>>>>> > > surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location >>>>>>> the best >>>>>>> > > way >>>>>>> > > to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and >>>>>>> you're >>>>>>> > > alone >>>>>>> > > at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> > > relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone >>>>>>> and feel >>>>>>> > > uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very >>>>>>> violent >>>>>>> > > city. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > in excellence, >>>>>>> > > Andrew L >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, "Andrew Buczko" < >>>>>>> a4s...@dsprototyping.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > >> Akron is a bad part of Akron. >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> Hopefully SynHak can make it better. >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>> On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston < >>>>>>> martinpinks...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>> > I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of >>>>>>> the local >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> foot traffic at Summit yet or not. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals >>>>>>> walking a >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> "daily circuit" until the shelters open in the evening. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> > >>> danger. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times >>>>>>> inside and >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> outside the building. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least >>>>>>> a box >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> cutter for self defense. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > Just my $.02 >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> > Take Care & Have fun Always. >>>>>>> > >>> > Martin Pinkston RN >>>>>>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > >>> > Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> > >>> > Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>>> > >>> > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > >>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> > >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>>> > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > >> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> > >> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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