On Thursday, February 27, 2014 18:30:54 Michael Griesacker wrote:
> Also:
> ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant.
> ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions?
> *** They use the words "charitable use."  Which carries more meaning than
> may appear at the surface.

If thats a proposal, perhaps Justin would like to send it to discuss@ so we 
can discuss how it would work.

You can't just bring up during a meeting "I propose FOO" and never follow up 
on it. What good is a proposal if the proponent doesn't work to push it 
through and achieve consensus?

> 
> On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, "Michael Griesacker" <mgriesac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
> > game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
> > from the minutes
> > On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
> >> 
> >> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
> >> 
> >> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular
> >> are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
> >> 
> >> > D.
> >> > 
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Torrie Fischer <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>
> >> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list <discuss@synhak.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >> > 
> >> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > Torrie,
> >> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> >> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
> >> 
> >> this
> >> 
> >> > > time.
> >> > 
> >> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of
> >> 
> >> real
> >> 
> >> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
> >> > 
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > 
> >> > > Devin Wolfe
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > ________________________________
> >> > > 
> >> > >  From: Torrie Fischer <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>
> >> > > 
> >> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list <discuss@synhak.org>
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >> > > 
> >> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
> >> 
> >> with
> >> 
> >> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> >> > > > committee
> >> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Technically, they have no authority.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
> >> 
> >> benevolent
> >> 
> >> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
> >> 
> >> imply
> >> 
> >> > > some kind of authority.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
> >> 
> >> officer's job
> >> 
> >> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have
> >> 
> >> actual
> >> 
> >> > > powers.
> >> > > 
> >> > > > Devin.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> > > 
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> >> 
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