Actually, that has nothing to do with it Steve, the issue is not one of state at all. The problem is one of process isolation assuming we're referring to session cookies which are only retained in memory. IE supports a different process per browser window, Firefox does not. For cookies which are placed on disk, they are shared amongst all browser instances, even when they have separate memory footprints.

Cookieless sessions are a security flaw, due to the ease of compromise of the session token from the query string either on the user's system or via web server logs and even referer logs.

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On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Steven Ross wrote:

What you are asking to do really isn't possible because of the stateless nature of http because you can't tell where the user is coming from. If they are authenticated then the application / web server has no idea what client (browser window) they are coming from and will let them perform any task from multiple windows (unless they launch a completely new instance of the browser - which like you said would only work if you were not using cookie based authentication). Sounds like you just need to educate your users a bit.

-Steve

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Bruce Hodgdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any way to force a new session, if a user opens a new tab then goes to the same app that is in the first window?

We use the pretty standard cfapplication that allows cookies and session management.

I have found that sometimes users will open a new tab and go to the same application basically executing the app twice from different windows. But since both these windows share session variables this can sometimes cause problems (changes in one window effect the other). Executing the browser twice keeps separate sessions. But since this is 2 windows in the same browser the cookie that points to the session id is the same.

I guess one way around this is cookieless sessions, then I believe you would have to put the jsessionid on each url? I don't like doing that. And that wouldn't stop someone from copying and pasting the URL to another window and having the same issue.

Or is there a good way to tell if the user does have 2 windows open with the same session?

Or other slick ways around this issue?



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