Does anyone know an estimate of when Adobe plans to release CFBuilder and CF 9? I know they are in beta now - but for some project planning where I work, we need to know if it is worth the time to investigate upgrading to CF 9 instead of CF 8, which is what we are currently planning before year's end. If CF 9 was released in October at the latest, we could go directly to 9 from 7 before January.
> Well, the problem is that it's hard to cover "getting started with > CFBuilder" in just an hour. > > > > For instance, > > - there's one talk that could be for those coming from CFEclipse > (what's different between those), > > - then there's an entirely other talk for those coming from > DW/HomeSite/CFStudio (which has to include introducing Eclipse). > > - Even then, trying to cover that audience would take more than > an > hour (because you still need to tell them what's unique about CFB, > separate > from Eclipse itself.) > > - Then there's still another talk on the ins and outs of > challenges > people can face (like that which Sean raised, and there are many more.) > > > > Because of this, I've instead decided to create online classes on these > things. > > > > First up will be a daylong class, oriented toward that audience of folks > coming from non-Eclipse editors, and it will cover three broad areas: the > least you need to know about Eclipse, the fundamental editing features of > CFBuilder, and other features of CFBuilder (like the debugger, the > extensions support, the server management, etc.) Even covering that last > section briefly, the rest fits nicely into a day. > > > > I'll be offering it at CFUnited (as a daylong class on Tuesday) and then > I'll be offering it as an online class after the conference. > > > > I then plan to create a still different class, perhaps half-day, oriented > instead toward that audience of people coming from Eclipse who want to > explore what's different. That's a very different audience (and most won't > bother be interested in a class anyway, I suspect, but I'll offer it in > case > there are any takers.) > > > > Over time I plan to create yet other half-day classes each to get into > details of things like using the debugger (more than meets the eye), > creating extensions (quite an expansive topic also), solving problems with > configuration of the managed servers and RDS setup, and so on. > > > > But sure, along the way (as I build these and once I do), I can see > creating > one-hour versions to offer as user groups that touch on some of the key > points of each subject. > > > > Until then, I'm sure someone else will probably step up to do the same. I > don't begrudge them that. I just think we have to be really careful about > the audiences for these talks. It's kind of like having a talk on > frameworks: do you assume the audience already uses one or not? Is the > talk > about one framework? Can you assume they already understand design > patterns? > Use CFCs? Etc. These things often make it hard for some topics to be > covered > in any one hour-long session. :-) > > > > Don't know if you (or others here) were looking for all that, but it came > to > mind. :-) > > > > /charlie > > > > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Douglas > Knudsen > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder > > > > So, I'm wishing I was presenting "Using That Shiny New Coldfusion > Builder", > but alas I'm not. I see a good topic for someone to step up and present > on > here. > > > Douglas Knudsen > http://www.cubicleman.com > this is my signature, like it? > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charlie Arehart <char...@carehart.org> > wrote: > > Hey Sean, that wouldn't be a problem with the RDS implementation. That > would > be with the aspect of adding a server to be managed from within CFB. > > I do so lament that they have gone this way of kind of forcing people into > thinking that they need to "add their server" to CFB, and that they need > to > install the "admin instance" to a server to be "used with CFB". > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
