Typically, I'm seeing many people using wordpress who rarely go into the code. So a big part of this will be how much customization is he wanting to add. Mura and MangoBlog are solid CF alternatives and staying within the language will help your team out. They also have active development communities like Wordpress which I think is very important. BoomSocket never really took off so I would be careful there (sorry Eric).

Wordpress is a gold standard so using it isn't necessarily a bad thing. If he wants to customize a lot to it, I would steer towards Mura/Mango so you can keep up with his requests.

John
ma...@fusionlink.com


Cheyenne Throckmorton wrote:
I know the subject is comparing apples and oranges, but I'm caught with a
difficult question.

I have a Creative Director who has learned and loves utilizing WordPress for
his own side purposes.  He wants to know if that is something we can now
roll out for a client to build a website that acts essentially as an
"interactive newsletter".  (I've already discussed with him that he needs to
define 'interactive' and discuss 'measurable goals' with the client to prove
we have indeed been 'interactive')

The reasons he loves WordPress and wants to go with it are:
- Easy to use
- Searchable (vs flash-based page turner they currently use)
- It will be faster to deploy having graphics, writing and copy editing
teams working simultaneously on articles
- He comes pre-trained and there are lots of tutorials on-line
- There are constant updates, plug-ins, themes and extensions being built
everyday that he can use

With a small team of developers I am hesitant to add yet another platform
for us to support, and worse yet another language, PHP.

Reasons 1-3 are essentially things that can be solved by most CMS systems
(ie Mura, or BoomSocket - which is what we currently use) and even MangoBlog
and possibly BlogCFC.

Reasons 4-5 are big question marks in my mind though.  The CF community has
nowhere near the presence of the PHP or even WordPress community.  There are
a ton of tutorials, videos, plug-ins, updates, themes and even user groups
as well.

ColdFusion certainly has its place as a middleware hub for all sorts of
things.  Today, I'm wondering with our growing deficit of tools, platforms
and developers if  we are losing our place among web platform utilities.
 The open source community is rapidly out pacing CF with platforms like
WordPress, Ning (which I utilize tons on the side without really knowing PHP
well), Drupal and others.

I'm searching in my head for valid reasons that we would not want to
roll-out WordPress because we are a CF shop.  Still, I can't shake the truth
of the matter being that in addressing the massive amounts of help
tutorial/trainings and plug-ins, themes and extensions out there why I
wouldn't launch a WordPress site on a 3rd party hosted solution and let our
design teams maintain it most of the way.

How would you set up a small content-managed site for a group of writers and
designers to have the most flexibility while utilizing less of your time?
(WordPress, Mura, BoomSocket, Drupal, Ning, MangoBlog, other).

If CF can't compete in this area, which seems to depend upon sheer numbers
of developers using the language, should it try to catch up and how or
should it just give up the game in competing for web-based platform/tool
offerings with healthy ecosystems of plugins like WordPress and keep
focusing itself down to a middleware language to be carried by other
intriguing Adobe specific options like Flash/Flex/AIR/Reader?

There's a Monday loaded question of the day.






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