On Mon, Jan 09, 2012, Zeev Pekar wrote about "Re: Social Justice II. Digital 
Revolution 2012.":
> It is exactly what Matrix did - they bought a company that deals with
> credit cards fraud several days ago. That company provides no technology

Ok, I can understand why if the media deals with IT security, IT companies
will want to boast having (so-called) security products. But I don't
understand why you think that the government will want to boast security
products too... The government doesn't sell products...

What *might* happen is that the government will want to pass new *laws*,
e.g., stating guidelines how credit card numbers should be protected.
What worries me that such laws (or alternatively, rules set by the
credit card companies) will dictate the use of specific non-free software
(e.g., specific hypervisor, OS or DB system). If that is proposed we should
fight that. But your fear was different - that the government "buy some
ugly expensive software" - and I don't understand how that would happen.

> It's more about attitude rather than about particular software. If you
> use FOSS you always check what happens with other similar projects, so

While wishing Free Software to become more common, you need to be aware
of the "victim of its own sucess" phenomenon:

As long as Free Software is only used in a minority of systems and typically
installed by more knowledgable users, one might get the impression that
free software is more secure, is better maintained than commercial software,
and the "attitude" of its users (as you put it) is better than that of
proprietary software users. But what will happen if one day Free Software
wins, and *everybody* uses it? Do you think virus writers and other criminals
will continue to focus on breaking into Windows because it's easier? Do you
think that users will still have that good "attitude" and continue to "check
what happens with other similar projects" like you said they do now?

No, unfortunately I predict that if some free software becomes very
popular, it will be shown just about as insecure as the non-free
software that preceded it, and stupid users will use it in a stupid way
which negates whatever security the software did have - just like they
previously did with the previous proprietary software.

I'm not taking a big risk with this prediction, because it's exactly
what has already happened. When people switched in the 90s from SunOS to
Linux (for example), did the number of breakins significantly change?
When in the early 90s most of the Internet was run by free software servers,
e.g., sendmail, wuftpd, BIND, etc., was it free from security vulnerabilities,
worms, and so on? No.

Anyway, my point is that there are excellent reasons for a country to
promote both the use, and the development, of free software. There's no
need to bring in wrong reasons, like promising that it will magically
solve credit card security problems, or improve the attitude or
knowledge of system administrators.

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