On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Waylan Limberg <way...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 9:25 am, Simon Willison <si...@simonwillison.net> wrote:
>>> Problems and challenges
>>> =======================
>>>
>>> 1. The Python logging module isn't very nicely designed - its Java
>>> heritage shines through, and things like logging.basicConfig behave in
>>> unintuitive ways (if you call basicConfig twice the second call fails
>>> silently but has no effect). This is why I suggest wrapping it in our
>>> own higher level interface.
>>
>> Simon, I'm the author of Python's logging package. Sorry for the delay
>> in replying, I've been away from this list awhile. I think the "Java
>> heritage shines through" is just FUD. basicConfig's behaviour is fully
>> documented here:
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/library/logging.html#logging.basicConfig
>>
>> Including the fact that it sometimes (by design) has no effect.
>>
>> There are a lot of people for whom logging just means writing to a
>> file, and that's why they have difficulty understanding why logging is
>> designed as it is. I would suggest you take a quick look at
>>
>> http://plumberjack.blogspot.com/2009/09/python-logging-101.html
>>
>> and then tell me why you think Python logging isn't well designed for
>> its purpose. You can do basic logging with two lines of setup (one
>> line if you ignore the import):
>>
>> import logging
>> logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG,filename='/path/to/my/log',
>> format='%(asctime)s %(message)s')
>>
>> and then
>>
>> logging.getLogger(__name__).debug("Just checking this works")
>>
>> Not too sure where the Java heritage is there, or where the hard part
>> is.
>>
>
> The hard part is that basicConfig only works like that back to Python
> 2.4 yet Django supports 2.3. When I added logging to Python-Markdown,
> this was the hardest part. Figuring out how to configure logging so
> that it works in 2.3 as well. The documentation is not exactly helpful
> in that regard.
...
> Of course, it is possible that I'm missing something obvious.

As luck would have it, you are :-)

Django 1.2 will drop formal support for Python 2.3.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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