Hi All,

Just to make you know, I have put up the current _meta API documentation 
here:
http://162.219.6.191:8000/ref/models/meta.html?highlight=_meta
As always, feel free to ask questions.

Daniel

On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:26:27 AM UTC+2, Daniel Pyrathon wrote:
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> The meta API specified in the docs (
> https://github.com/PirosB3/django/blob/meta_documentation/docs/ref/models/meta.txt)
>  
> is the current API. I have documented this in order to understand more of 
> the current implementation and it will be good to show a comparison when a 
> new meta API will be approved.
>
> My current proposal (https://gist.github.com/PirosB3/371704ed40ed093d5a82) 
> and it will be discussed tomorrow with Russell. I will post as soon as I 
> have updates.
>
> Daniel Pyrathon 
>
> On Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:37:49 AM UTC+2, Josh Smeaton wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> Nice work putting that document together. Is the meta document you put 
>> together the current API or is it the API you are proposing? If the latter, 
>> a few suggestions (and if others disagree, please point that out):
>>
>> - Remove all mention of caching. That should be an implementation detail 
>> only, and not a requirement for other implementations.
>> - the *_with_model methods really rub me up the wrong way. I would prefer 
>> always returning the _with_model variant, and letting the caller discard 
>> the model if they don't need it.
>> - I'm not a fan of virtual and concrete fields, though I have to admit 
>> I'm not sure how they're different, especially in the context of different 
>> implementations.
>> - Not sure that m2m should be differentiated from related.
>> - init_name_map should be an implementation detail.
>> - normalize_together should be an implementation detail.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:05:02 UTC+10, Daniel Pyrathon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the last days I have built a documentation of the current state of 
>>> Options. Based on feedback and prototyping I have thought of a potential 
>>> interface for _meta that can solve the issues currently present, such as 
>>> redundancy (in code and in caching systems). The interface has also been 
>>> thought to be maintainable and is a base that can be used to create custom 
>>> meta stores.
>>> Obviously this is far from perfect, It will need many iterations and 
>>> maybe it is too complex. I would really love to gain as much feedback as 
>>> possible so it can be discussed with Russell and the community on Monday.
>>>
>>> The documentation of _meta can be found here: 
>>> https://github.com/PirosB3/django/blob/meta_documentation/docs/ref/models/meta.txt
>>> I will be refining the document in the next days, I will also be 
>>> publishing the docs on a webserver and will be linking a URL soon.
>>>
>>> My proposal has been published here:
>>> https://gist.github.com/PirosB3/371704ed40ed093d5a82
>>> In the next days I will be iterating over the feedback gained, and based 
>>> on one very interesting suggestion on IRC, I will try to see how my API 
>>> syntax looks in modelforms.py.
>>>
>>> As said previously, and feedback is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Hi from Pycon IT!
>>>
>>> Daniel Pyrathon
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:25:45 PM UTC+2, Josh Smeaton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:56:06 UTC+10, Daniel Pyrathon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I will be starting my weekly updates on my SoC project: 
>>>>> refactoring Meta to a stable API. For anyone who missed out, you will be 
>>>>> able to view it here: 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp2_skqkxyrc0egdRv6ofnRGCI9nmvxDFBkCXgy0Jwo/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> This week is the first official week of SoC. Me and my mentor 
>>>>> (Russell) are initially approaching the work in the following way:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Document the existing Meta API*
>>>>>    For each endpoint, document the following:
>>>>>      - Input parameters and return type
>>>>>      - Caching pattern used
>>>>>      - Where it's called from (internally and externally to Meta)
>>>>>      - Why is it being called
>>>>>      - When is it being called
>>>>>    
>>>>>    - *Propose an initial refactor plan*
>>>>>    Once the documentation has been done, I should have a better idea 
>>>>>    of the current implementation. This will allow me to mock a proposed 
>>>>>    implementation that will be reviewed at my next update call, on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> My next update will be posted on Friday, just to make sure the 
>>>>> community is informed of my progress. For any major updates that require 
>>>>> community approval, I will be creating separate threads.
>>>>> My name on the internet is pirosb3, so if you want to have a chat 
>>>>> about my progress feel free to contact me! The branch I am currently 
>>>>> working on is 
>>>>> https://github.com/PirosB3/django/tree/meta_documentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Daniel Pyrathon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:25:45 PM UTC+2, Josh Smeaton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:56:06 UTC+10, Daniel Pyrathon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I will be starting my weekly updates on my SoC project: 
>>>>> refactoring Meta to a stable API. For anyone who missed out, you will be 
>>>>> able to view it here: 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp2_skqkxyrc0egdRv6ofnRGCI9nmvxDFBkCXgy0Jwo/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> This week is the first official week of SoC. Me and my mentor 
>>>>> (Russell) are initially approaching the work in the following way:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Document the existing Meta API*
>>>>>    For each endpoint, document the following:
>>>>>      - Input parameters and return type
>>>>>      - Caching pattern used
>>>>>      - Where it's called from (internally and externally to Meta)
>>>>>      - Why is it being called
>>>>>      - When is it being called
>>>>>    
>>>>>    - *Propose an initial refactor plan*
>>>>>    Once the documentation has been done, I should have a better idea 
>>>>>    of the current implementation. This will allow me to mock a proposed 
>>>>>    implementation that will be reviewed at my next update call, on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> My next update will be posted on Friday, just to make sure the 
>>>>> community is informed of my progress. For any major updates that require 
>>>>> community approval, I will be creating separate threads.
>>>>> My name on the internet is pirosb3, so if you want to have a chat 
>>>>> about my progress feel free to contact me! The branch I am currently 
>>>>> working on is 
>>>>> https://github.com/PirosB3/django/tree/meta_documentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Daniel Pyrathon
>>>>>
>>>>

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