Tim gave a good overview of the week. I'll focus my response on the MSSQL roadmap.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Tim Graham <timogra...@gmail.com> wrote: > * Discussed the long-term roadmap for MSSQL support in Django. I'll let > Michael speak to the details of this. > I had the opportunity to speak with several engineers that had intimate knowledge of Microsoft's various SQL Server drivers; past, current, and future. The ADO based drivers used by django-mssql will not receive any future love from Microsoft. They don't have plans on removing them from Windows, but the advice was to use either ODBC or FreeTDS. The fastest and most feature rich drivers for connecting to SQL Server from Windows are the ODBC drivers. Microsoft is actively working on updating the ODBC drivers for Linux and expect them to be released this year. ODBC drivers for Mac are planned for sometime next year. The next best way of connecting to SQL Server is to use FreeTDS (without the ODBC interface), which has the benefit of having drivers available for all OSes right now. The short-term plan for django-mssql is to get it to pass the Django 1.8 test suite, without making any substantial changes. This will allow any existing django-mssql users to upgrade to the Django 1.8 LTS. My long term plan is to switch out ADO for replaceable ODBC and FreeTDS. This may follow the current pattern Aymeric started when he created django-pymssql, or have them both in django-mssql. After 1.8 is fully supported, I need to think, discuss, and investigate more before making a decision. ODBC seems to be the most performant and best option, but I have concerns about the current lack of good drivers for Linux and Mac. If Microsoft follows through with their commitment, then it should be a non-issue, but I'd rather hedge my bets and ensure an easier time with drivers in the long run. Supporting both also provides for a good way of comparing the performance of the underlying drivers. I plan on evaluating django-mssql, django-pyodbc-azure, and starting from scratch to see which would be the best route for this new mssql database backend. There are pros and cons to each. Django-mssql has a lot of legacy cruft. Django-pyodbc-azure targets Azure SQL Server, which has some subtle differences with Microsoft's non-cloud version of the database server. Starting from scratch is potentially more work. Regardless of the decision, the repo will be hosted on github. Regards, Michael Manfre -- GPG Fingerprint: 74DE D158 BAD0 EDF8 keybase.io/manfre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGdCwBvWHFj3qoyUWOwU-r8Ng_ME4MhF%2Bw%2BOqa1J0PkxBkxWxA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.