Hi All,

Just coming back to this again (time flies), although we've got a while 
until 4.0 is released so no rush here.

I've got a few different thoughts here:

*Data*

I had a look at the various tools discussed above to see if any give us 
what we need. While on that journey I came accross git's `shortlog`. 
Apparently git use this to create their release notes, there's a few 
options here but something like the following will give the list of 
contributors (and number of commits) since 3.2.

What I like about this is it "coalesce together commits by the same 
person". The other tools above would have resulted in a number of different 
entries for many folk as they use different email addresses (or their 
GitHub "email" gets used). 

$ git shortlog 3.2..main -n -s --group=author --group=trailer:co-authored-by

I'm not quite sure how git then get to new and returning users, but 
presumably that could be a fairly short script to work out the new names 
since 3.2. 

*Release Notes*

Adding names and tickets seemed to receive a positive response earlier in 
the year. So the question here, is what format? 

Python uses a couple of different formats
1) <Link to Ticket> : <Description> : Patch by <Name>
2) <Description> (Contributed by <Name> in <Ticket>)

I think the main thing is to choose something, does anyone have a 
preference, either one of the above styles or something different? (My vote 
would be for the second option above)

[1] https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/changelog.html
[2] https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.8.html

*Events*

Responding to Tom's point above, I think we'd want to reach out to one of 
the organisers of an event to see if folk would be interested in exploring 
this further. It's far more complex than "just" adding some text to a 
release note. However, given that it's a gathering of Django folk it seems 
like an opportunity to do _something_. 

While I've seen what recognition can look like at corporate events those 
tend to rely on being Exclusive (think VIP areas et al), rather than 
Inclusive. I suspect for a Django conference/event we'd want to do 
something quite different. 

Kind Regards

David
On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 21:52:14 UTC+1 t...@carrick.eu wrote:

> This is something I've been thinking about a bit as well.
>
> Mostly I think adding authors to the release notes is probably the best 
> bang for buck in terms of recognition. This is what I was mostly thinking 
> about myself. The release notes are (I believe) very widely read, 
> especially in comparison with anything on GitHub.
>
> The other suggestions are, I think, good and worthwhile, but probably not 
> as impactful.
>
> I am interested / curious about your last point. I think adding some 
> recognition to in person events might be nice, but I'm not sure what it 
> would look like in practice.
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 at 17:38, 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers 
> (Contributions to Django itself) <django-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm all for exposing names in more places.
>>
>> Linking through to PR's from the release notes would also be useful for 
>> "pulling back the curtain" and making Django's code a bit less magical. 
>> Plus it could help the workflow for current contributors.
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 at 16:07, Tom Forbes <t...@tomforb.es> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we could do this as part of a Sphinx plugin? Right now each 
>>> entry in the release notes is only implicitly tied to the pull request that 
>>> adds it. 
>>>
>>> If we could add some kind of pull request ID marker to the release note 
>>> entries we could create an inline link to the PR (which might be very 
>>> useful by itself) as well as using it derive a list of contributors for 
>>> each release.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 09:16, Carlton Gibson <carlton...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David, 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this. Yes. 
>>>>
>>>> Let's assume the 2020-2021 time filter is in place. 
>>>>
>>>> Mariusz recently picked up James' PR to add the list of Core 
>>>> Contributors (back) to the website, which is/was part of the DEP 10 
>>>> governance changes. 
>>>> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com/pull/1099
>>>>
>>>> The hope is that the DSF Board will approve that in their next meeting, 
>>>> and we can get it live. With hindsight we perhaps could have moved quicker 
>>>> but, the idea was to move on from there to recognise current and new 
>>>> contributors on a more ongoing basis too. 
>>>>
>>>> So... my hope was to probably do something per-major release — so 3.2, 
>>>> 4.0, 4.1, etc. (Maybe we could do it every month but...) 
>>>>
>>>> * Who were the contributors? 
>>>> * Who were the new contributors?(Special callout)
>>>> * Who was on the Triage and Review team? ('cause it ain't just code)
>>>> * And, can we identify other folks to call out...? (T&R team was an 
>>>> attempt to capture participation here.) 
>>>>
>>>> I think Simon's github-to-sqlite tool is a good candidate. 
>>>> Some others I've collected whilst this has been bubbling on the 
>>>> low-ring: 
>>>>
>>>> * Katie McLaughlin provided some git log pointers 
>>>> https://glasnt.com/blog/script-o-hatrack/
>>>> * See also https://github.com/LABHR/octohatrack
>>>> * GitHub built this based on Simon's ideas: 
>>>> https://octo.github.com/projects/flat-data
>>>> * "A git query language" https://github.com/filhodanuvem/gitql
>>>> * "git quick stats" https://github.com/arzzen/git-quick-stats
>>>>
>>>> I think there's plenty of tooling there to show how to get the info we 
>>>> want. 
>>>> At a guess it's a couple of evenings exploring, and then pulling it 
>>>> into a report. 
>>>>
>>>> I think if we were to do something along these lines, starting a new 
>>>> tradition, for Django 4.0 in December, that would be really great. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure as yet on the exact format to present all that. 
>>>> The blog post for the _Final_ versions could say more without too much 
>>>> difficulty. 
>>>> (e.g. 
>>>> https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2021/apr/06/django-32-released/ ) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Carlton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 29 June 2021 at 21:35:16 UTC+2 smi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had this sat in my drafts for a while. Rather than let it sit on 
>>>>> the shelf any longer I thought it better to share. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been thinking about recognising contributions recently. The main 
>>>>> issue with the notes here is that it focuses on code rather than 
>>>>> contributions to the wider Django ecosystem. However, if there are 
>>>>> improvements that we could make here I think we should explore those, and 
>>>>> maybe some of them could be used more widely.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are a few ideas of how contributions could be recognise following 
>>>>> a peer review of other projects. Some are better than others, some are 
>>>>> easier to implement than others. Hopefully something to prompt some 
>>>>> discussion. What do folk think? How would you feel if you were recognised 
>>>>> in one of these ways?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Add Python style `contributed by` in the release notes. I'm not so 
>>>>> sure about adding the ticket number (in fact I think I saw Nick Pope 
>>>>> point 
>>>>> to something today that says we don't ref tickets?). [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> - For the headline features add names to the blog post [2]. Could also 
>>>>> add link to their blog / website /Twitter (less sure about this second 
>>>>> part).
>>>>>
>>>>> - The blog post (or another page) to include a long list of names of 
>>>>> everyone who contributeted a commit in that release. I think it's fine if 
>>>>> this is long, can probably use Simon W's GitHub-to-sqlite repo for this 
>>>>> so 
>>>>> it is sustainable. [3]
>>>>>
>>>>> - For the headline features make a series of Twitter posts 
>>>>> highlighting them and acknowledge contributors. I'm thinking something 
>>>>> along the lines of what Adam Johnson did for the 3.2 release but include 
>>>>> names & thank yous. 
>>>>>
>>>>> - A rust style thanks page [4] (but **not** the all time list, I don't 
>>>>> think that's helpful and it's on GitHub anyway).
>>>>>
>>>>> - A go style contributor summit. (I don't think this is feasible, even 
>>>>> remotely. But I'll put it out there!). A slight variation on this could 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> folk who have contributed could apply for different coloured conference 
>>>>> passes/lanyards.  [5]
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.8.html
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2021/apr/06/django-32-released/
>>>>> [3]https://github.com/dogsheep/github-to-sqlite
>>>>> [4]https://thanks.rust-lang.org/
>>>>> [5]https://blog.golang.org/contributors-summit-2019
>>>>>
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