This thread shows a very prevalent side of most developers that makes me ashamed to tell people that I'm a developer.
The OP is not saying that we should go out and advertise that Django is a great CMS. In fact he spends half of his post making trying to preemptively shut all the know-it-all folks up before they even start with, "The problem with your post is... [insert ignoramus disguised as b-rated philosophy]". The fact of the matter is that the best software sometimes comes from those who have no business sense (or any sense for that matter). Django's community is very closed minded. For those of you who would like to promote Django as awesome for building ['CMS', 'SOCIAL APPLICATION', 'INSERT YOUR FAVORITE WHEEL TO REINVENT'], feel free to do so. You're helping yourself, not the closed-minded folks. They don't get jobs usually which is why they work for free. In Summary: Great post/question. This is something I think that has to be addressed by community members on their own, instead of relying on core Django clique. On Jun 17, 12:39 pm, Richard Shebora <sheb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Matt, > > Between you and Russ I see what you mean. I will contact Tom and > Venkatraman regarding their concept to see how I can help. I am not > proficient with django's paradigm yet, but I can get better in the > process. > > Thanks, > Richard Shebora > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Matt Hoskins <skaffe...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > > Richard, > > > That is where most people who are looking for something *in that > > space* look first - i.e. they have a set of requirements where those > > platforms are a good fit for what they're trying to do, but it isn't > > the only space. Those people aren't the people who pay my wages at > > present because, as I said, I'm currently not building applications > > where any of those would be a good fit :). I originally selected > > Django because I was looking for something that was specifically not > > in the space that, say, drupal is in as although some of the > > facilities it and other vaguely similar frameworks provide could have > > been of use, a lot of what they provided wasn't a good fit or was just > > irrelevant and if using them I would have been forced into doing > > things a less-than-ideal way. > > > As you got more specific in this thread your approach seemed to be > > orientating towards "selling" Django by "selling" Django-based > > applications of a certain type (a bit like "selling" Zope by "selling" > > Plone, perhaps?) and thus the path to that being to sort out those > > applications. I'm not saying it's not a valid approach (having great > > re-usable applications is no bad thing), I'm just saying it's not the > > only approach and that the space you talk about is not the only > > requirement space where Django is useful. > > > Regards, > > Matt > > > On Jun 17, 3:06 pm, Richard Shebora <sheb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Matt > > >> You are correct. The "drupal/joomla/plone/wordpress space" does exist > >> and it is where most people (non-developers) look first. These are > >> the people who need to perceive django in a more positive light if the > >> goal is to increase django market share. They are the people who hire > >> you and I. If not, it's a moot point. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Django users" group. > > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
