@everyone;

I think you've all absolutely hit the nail on the head here, with the fact
of developer time being more expensive than server hardware.

Also - I find it *very* hard to believe that Java would be any faster than a
Python ctypes extension - I think this article is more "wishful thinking of
a java enthusiast" - but I could be wrong??

Cal


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Russell Keith-Magee <
russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:52 AM, ydjango <traderash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What do you think?
> >
> > http://www.cringely.com/2011/10/the-second-coming-of-java/
> >
> > "When SSDs gain enough capacity there will be a shift from the Ruby
> > world back to the Java world. Not for prototyping, because, well, it’s
> > prototyping. But simply because the statement “Ruby is incredibly slow
> > but I don’t care because my database is slower” will no longer be
> > true. At that point Ruby (Python, Groovy, you name it) becomes the
> > bottleneck." - from the above article
>
> There are so many mistakes and misunderstandings in that article, it's
> difficult to know where to start.
>
> Some indications that he doesn't know what he's talking about:
>
>  * He says "you can replace Ruby with Python, Django or Groovy". So
> he's unclear on the difference between a programming language and a
> web framework.
>
>  * "Ruby has nothing on Perl". 'Nuff said.
>
>  * "Ruby is already migrating to that JRuby (sic)"... Only for a very
> specific (and incorrect) interpretation of "migrating".
>
>  * He makes no mention of the fact that developer time is much more
> expensive than server hardware.
>
>  * He appears to be unaware of projects like V8, PyPy, or any of the
> other examples of virtual machines for interpreted languages.
>
> Move along; nothing to see here.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)
>
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