I use a desktop at home and a laptop when I go attempting to hack in the open community. The hack experiances always seem so messy to me. Most recently I am trying to help with a project called SUMO but there are tons of download requirements outside of the python and django. I have also tried to get any of the groups I have gone to to define a stack for hacking and vagrant, virtualenv and of course git and sudo. Every new project seems to use dependencies that mean a lot of time downloading widgets that seem to do the same things if one asks but after a while why ask? If it is too sloppy I will just concentrate on less messy projects. I am tempted to play with flask but for now the django book examples are working though I will likely have to go through chapter four many multiples of times and am hoping soon to get some move towards being able to build the site I have my mind set on.
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 5:53:46 PM UTC-5, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > Apologies Amirouche for the late reply. > > The documentation is good, but I like many apparently(based on tutorials > for other envs) prefer a hands on approach to a documentary approach. This > is the place where Django doesn't have much depth in its ecosystem. It has > no current books and no hands on tutorial other than GSWD which creates a > lot of lifting with installing ruby, vms, vagrant and so on just to start > with Django. > > Flask is starting to get a few tutorials popping up in real python for > web, > http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world, > > and in the works the Picard flask kickstarter > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1223051718/practical-flask-book-project > . > > I put my money where my mouth is and sponsor these kickstarters as there > is such a shortage of good info. > > As I would back you Amirouche if you started a Kickstarter to give Django > a good practical and hands on tutorial. > > Cheers > > Sayth > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Amirouche Boubekki > <amirouche...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/7/1 Sayth Renshaw <flebbe...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 1, 2013, Tom Evans wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Sayth Renshaw <flebber.c...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Is that good though? >>>> > >>>> > Barring 2 scoops there is no new material to recognise and guide >>>> users to >>>> > the new features of Django and to get beginner Django developers on >>>> board >>>> > quicker. >>>> > >>>> > It leads to bits of info for each python framework but nothing >>>> > comprehensive. >>>> > >>>> > Sayth >>>> > >>>> >>>> Virtualenv, pip etc are not features of Django, they are features of >>>> python. It is right that Django mentions them in places, it is doubly >>>> right that it does not attempt to duplicate the fine documentation >>>> that pip and virtualenv possess themselves. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>> Agreed good tutorials would show steps and then point to resources for >>> further reading, >>> >>> At this point though it appears there is a scarcity of good tutorials >>> for current Django. >>> >> >> pip+virtualenv[wrapper] is a pratice not something that will allow you to >> build a skyrocket as-is, you can live without it. >> >> The documentation is good, and overall ecosystem alive and active, what >> do you need more ? They are several CMS and admin apps, blog solutions >> etc... They are still improvements and stabilisation to be done on many >> (utility) apps... Everything I want to say is that outside the django >> tutorial, and anybooks you read, the best way to improve your skills it to >> [re]build something... >> >> Time to time, I think about writring a set of tutorial about a CMS or >> Social Network from scratch, but experience says that except the actual >> code, the remaining issues are solved and well documented outside this >> virtual project, so this would, I think, have little value. >> >> >> >> >> HTH, >> >> Amirouche >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Django users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/django-users/f1RvG1vpVpg/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> django-users...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to django...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
