On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
> Maybe ... some effort to solve the infrastructure issue would make it > worth kickstarter funding. > > A couple of colleagues are pushing me towards Docker as a packaged Python > 3.4 environment but that is beyond my interest atm. > > I am running a dedicated production server on Ubuntu 14.04 which more or > less forces me to stick with Python 2.7. I would like to move to Python 3.x > using virtualenv but I don't want to mess with stuff which is working. > > Maybe a really nice solution would be a kickstarter project to develop a > deployment tool to create a predictable, supportable modern environment on > "old" boxes and to vaccuum up the existing Django sites running on bare > metal. > > In my case, Ubuntu does support Python 3.4 (I think) so the virtualenv > approach would be covered by standard Ubuntu support. I have only glanced > at Docker so I don't know how valid that might be. > Docker isn't needed for any of this, especially on Ubuntu 14.04. Python 2 and Python 3 can co-exist, and Python3.4 is part of the standard repo for Ubuntu 14.04. Even if it wasn't, you could install Python to a user-space directory, and create a virtualenv based on *that* version of Python. However, in a broader sense, I think you'll find that the audience of people who need this tool are almost by definition the set of people who wouldn't be able to use it. If a company is locked into Python 2.6, it's because they're on a Enterprise Supported Version (tm) of some operating system; in that sort of environment, installing and using *anything* that isn't provided by the vendor is a non-starter. Even if a tool *was* developed, you'd need to get it deployed in-channel - and that could take years... or you could just upgrade your system :-) FWIW: This is the exact type of problem that RedHat software collections are designed to fix - RHEL wore a lot of flack for being so pathologically behind the times (the Python interpreter being one key component). RedHat's response has been to introduce software collections - an officially mandated set of tools that can be updated much more regularly, official blessed by the manufacturer. https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Software_Collections/ Obviously, this won't help if you're not on RHEL6 or 7 - but it's an indication that some enterprise vendors are listening. Yours, Russ Magee %-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-users/CAJxq848g%2BUavE0giY2cogrh%3DwY2OzxbeHX9Bv0_SXFD0v0L0oQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
